Skunk clown with a cheek spot
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dalilgriffith
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I doubt it. Its probably just a misbar
ozadars
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What differs a misbar from a leuc physically?
Bands of wild-caught misbar ocellaris, percula and maroons are usually a bit jagged than the original and thats all. I have never seen something like 4 striped ocellaris or maroon because its not in their genes.
I would say misbar if he was a A. perideraion with one of his side stripes being either longer or shorter than normal. However Amphiprion akallopisos dont have any bands on the sides naturally and this guy has two same sized spots at the same place. It needs to recieve the gene of "having a side bar" from one of his parents for these spots I think.
Bands of wild-caught misbar ocellaris, percula and maroons are usually a bit jagged than the original and thats all. I have never seen something like 4 striped ocellaris or maroon because its not in their genes.
I would say misbar if he was a A. perideraion with one of his side stripes being either longer or shorter than normal. However Amphiprion akallopisos dont have any bands on the sides naturally and this guy has two same sized spots at the same place. It needs to recieve the gene of "having a side bar" from one of his parents for these spots I think.
ozadars
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The photo is not mine, I found it on google. Mine is not sandaracinos, its akallopisos. I will post a photo when I put him in my main tank.
Check this site out, it was labeled as leuc:
http://www.uwphoto.net/pages/gallery_si04-502.html
According to your theory, the fish in the photo is just a misbar sandaracinos. However, if you look at the fish behind (look at the photo from the link above), although its blurry, it has a spot too and more importantly, its top stripe is half unlike sandaracinos. I highly doubt that this is just an extra-ordinary sandaracinos couple.
I think a skunk with a spot on both of his cheeks can not be counted as a misbar, especially the one in the photo. Misbaring mainly caused because of environmental factors but these spots are probably from the parents' genes. Misbaring doesnt usually show on the both sides of the fish at the same place and two wild clowns with the same markings on the same spot?
I believe the fish in the photo is either a leuc with more dominant sandaracinos genes or a sandaracinos x leuc hybrid.
Check this site out, it was labeled as leuc:
http://www.uwphoto.net/pages/gallery_si04-502.html
According to your theory, the fish in the photo is just a misbar sandaracinos. However, if you look at the fish behind (look at the photo from the link above), although its blurry, it has a spot too and more importantly, its top stripe is half unlike sandaracinos. I highly doubt that this is just an extra-ordinary sandaracinos couple.
I think a skunk with a spot on both of his cheeks can not be counted as a misbar, especially the one in the photo. Misbaring mainly caused because of environmental factors but these spots are probably from the parents' genes. Misbaring doesnt usually show on the both sides of the fish at the same place and two wild clowns with the same markings on the same spot?
I believe the fish in the photo is either a leuc with more dominant sandaracinos genes or a sandaracinos x leuc hybrid.
phender
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Just because it is labeled a leuc doesn't make it so.
The other fish may indeed be a leuc. That doesn't mean very much. It is actually more common for a leuc to be paired with a chrysopterus or sandarcinos than another leuc.
Its not my theory, simply my opinion based on my experience. Misbarring occurs all the time in the wild. Many times it symmetrical. I have seen WC percs with matching "teardrops" and squares under both eyes.
It may indeed be 1/4 or 1/8 chrysopterus. I am just saying that I have seen several sandaracinos as well as a couple akallopisos that had symmetrical cheek spots that appeared to be misbars rather than hybrids.
Since we can't see the parents, we can never really be sure.
phender
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Can't be 100% sure, but skunks have a very unique body shape. When they are crossed with clowns like chrysopterus to make leucs or ocellaris to make thiellei, the body shape is altered. The clowns I saw with the cheek patches had definite skunk body shape.
I suppose the white patches with completely skunk bodies could be the result of sandarcinos or akallopisos crossing with perideraion. But, like I said originally, the spots on the faces of the percs didn't come from hybridization, it is just an uncommon misbar.
FWIW: hybrids like leucs and thiellei aren't always symmetrical, nor are normally barred clowns for that matter.
I tend to go with the simplest explanation when possible. A science teacher at Montana State Univ. once told our class, "if you hear a bunch of hoof beats in the distance, you should be expecting horses, not zebras". I don't think it was his original thought, but it still made a lot of sense to me.
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