Deinonych
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Certainly. Many people do this, myself included. For most species, I treat with chloroquine phosphate @ 40mg/gal for four weeks as part of my QT protocol.
So I have a fish with ich. A brand new 20 gal Qt. And Ich Attack. Advice please.
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Certainly. Many people do this, myself included. For most species, I treat with chloroquine phosphate @ 40mg/gal for four weeks as part of my QT protocol.
scott3569
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Ok, so now I am understanding a little more about the importance of a QT tank..even a small one..
I would assume ich can also be on LR and in LS..so if someone starts a tank cycle with ich already in it..can you treat your DT while in the cycling process??
Electus unus
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Just let it cycle for 72 days to insure the ich has run it's course.
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Electus unus
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Also, can inverts get ich?
Electus unus
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Also, was used a lot. Lol my bad
Spar
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you risk the sand eventually leeching copper back out and not being able to control the levels appropriately, or not knowing the levels are getting out of control and the fish suffering. i would highly advise to just put a little sand in a tupperware cup and replace the sand completely inbetween QT's.
They can't get infected by Ich, BUT Ich can encyst on hard shelled inverts the same as rocks, equipment, etc. Whereas it may be highly unlikely, you do hear stories of snails bringing in Ich to a tank. Many strong QT supporting people on the forum just rinse inverts and put straight into the DT. I personally take the cautious road and QT inverts and coral for 72 days, with a fishless environment (fallow).
Spar
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You won't be able to see with your own eyes any stage of Ich. Hard to tell from the picture what that is, but you may want to try razorblading them off. Are they hard?
Electus unus
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My tank was fully cycled in less than two weeks with the help of some pre established tank water, 200 dollars worth of liverock and sand, and safe start. I didn't have much knowledge on ich when I first started setting up. Had I known it would be an issue as it is, I would've let the tank cycle for at least 6 weeks
scott3569
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gotcha, well I hope you can get it under control!! And I hope that I don't make a mistake with my first set up..I wasn't really considering a QT tank..but now I am considering a 10 gallon
Reefahholic
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I have sand in one of my qt's for some Scooter Blenny's. I wouldn't do it again as I've found that it's harder to keep the copper at a stable level. Not to mention the detritus buildup in the sand. Bare-bottom is the way to go.
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SecretiveFish
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Ick Attack does not work. I know because I tried it many moons ago and all that happened was I now have less money than I did before I bought it and have fewer fish.
My story: I bought tons of this crap and treated my display tank. The fish "seemed" to get better, but now I know they had just build up a temporary immunity to the ICK in the system and/or the ICK was hiding in their gills. I added a new non-ill fish 5 months ago (I used ICK attack probably 1-2 years ago in this tank) and bam, ICK. I lost a couple of fish in a matter of days in the display tank, and several more in the QT before the medication had a chance to save them.
A note, I followed the recommendations for Cupramine (.5mg/L for 14 days) and that did not kill the ICK; it came back a few weeks later in the QT. After asking for help here, snorvich recommended 30 days at the .4mg/L level and this seems to have worked.
My story: I bought tons of this crap and treated my display tank. The fish "seemed" to get better, but now I know they had just build up a temporary immunity to the ICK in the system and/or the ICK was hiding in their gills. I added a new non-ill fish 5 months ago (I used ICK attack probably 1-2 years ago in this tank) and bam, ICK. I lost a couple of fish in a matter of days in the display tank, and several more in the QT before the medication had a chance to save them.
A note, I followed the recommendations for Cupramine (.5mg/L for 14 days) and that did not kill the ICK; it came back a few weeks later in the QT. After asking for help here, snorvich recommended 30 days at the .4mg/L level and this seems to have worked.
sreefs
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To answer you question, as reefahholic said sand is not a good idea in your QT with copper, very hard to keep at a therapeutic level. Also if you use copper do not use ammonia neutralizers, as this will raise copper to toxic levels.(Prime, AmQuel plus and others) I am sure you have already, but go over Steve's sticky's (snorvich) about ich and fish disease at the top they are very good!
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Electus unus
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Thank you all. I decided to move my LR and inverts to the 20 gallon. This 30 will be my new qt, and the 20g to a hospital or maybe a sump for my new 55 gallon I got for 25 bucks at a yard sale 
I I plan on using the combined water from both tanks after the ich is fully irradiated, to fill the 55. If no ich is in either tanks, no worries right?
I I plan on using the combined water from both tanks after the ich is fully irradiated, to fill the 55. If no ich is in either tanks, no worries right?
Electus unus
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I guess so, yeah. At least get a cycling during the ich removal process
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