Solaris Led lighting systems

[BeanAnimal]

It is an eye of the beholder situation. I don't think until you (or I) see them side by side, a winner can be picked. We both agree the camera and our eye are nowhere near the same. Some of the photos posted here have been great, but I have seen as many photos under other types of lighting that are just as detailed and brilliant.

"Boken" is actually spelled "bokeh" and refers to the quality of the out of focus areas of an image, not that fact that parts are out of focus. The concept applies to a lens and iris as it is captures an image compared to human vision. We see in focus and our eyes and brains autofocus for us. In other words our eyes are not subject to bokeh in the sense that we normally use hte term. (though I suppose you could argue otherwise, as we do have an iris and lens, and that lens is not perfect). Poor bokeh results from small aperatures not being perfectly round. This is not a problem with our eyes and out of focus point of light retain a nice round shape (good bokeh)

It is the chromatic aberation, iris leafs and overall lens shape contribute to the bokeh. Anyway, we can talk lenses and eyeballs off thread if you like. It is a very itneresting subject

OT:
Yes there is no need for a "sharpness" knob on a modern tube TV, let alone a DLP, LCOS, LCD or PLASMA unit. Take it off and people will scream though.
FWIW: The "sharpness" control comes from the fact that color TV is "color" overlaid on a black and white image as well as the fact that chrominance and luminance data was traditionally compressed for terestrial signals. Boosting luminance creates the illusion of sharpness when in reality it is adding blooming to the luminance portion of the signal. Did I mention power supply problems and blooming? I am an ISF certified technician as well as having the good fortune to have a family member that owns Ovation Multimedia (the folks who make Avia and Avia Pro). You think I am hard on "LED light owners" I can make TV buyers cry with buyers remorse after I show them what is "wrong" with their beloved TVs. Did I mention PLASMA TVs are terrible? I am actually just about to the rip the cover off of my brothers 2 day old SAMSUNG 61" DLP to do a bit of mod work on it.

 

[badpacket]

OT, Bean, is there a decent DVD for calibration that would work for those of us with your average 36" tv, that doesn't break the bank?

 

[jnb]

oct 17 2006

jan 9 2007

 

[jmchzn]

nick
nice

 

[owsi]

Nice Reef, good growth too.
Packet, you ever heard of "PMing" this thread is 31 pages already thanks to a few people wanting to impress us with their brillance, spelling excellence and general supeior knowledge!

 

[jnb]

yes - they call it hijacking, yes?

 

[howie1]

bean. you are relentless. if someone said they like the solaris in black, you will be all over them. RELENTLESS.

 

[BeanAnimal]

owsi, that is the problem here, nobody is trying to impress anybody but you guys bristle every time anybody says something you do not like or do not want to hear. You welcome comments similar to those SoMoney made, but don't want to hear any conversation about the comments.

The information Slow_leak posted was fine with you, but the act of clarify that information was offensive. Over and over again this pattern repeats itself. OWSI, you could have easily PMd that to badpacket instead of posting here and causing the dreaded "email" to bring people back to see useless comments.

The funny part is that even after being warned by mods, several of you feel justified in taking pot shots and personal jabs whenever possible.

howie, you claimed I have not read the thread and that I am relentless. I think if you take the time to read my posts, you will see I do not have anything against the SOLARIS.

Jnb, nobody has hijacked the thread. You guys complain about 30 pages worth of posts, but go back and count how many of those posts are like the last (3) in this thread. Yes, that is right, 3 of you just made 3 seperate personal attacks or useless posts and have done MORE to steer the thread OT than anybody here! Look a page back and it is the same thing... all the way to the begining.

Packet, you ever heard of "PMing" this thread is 31 pages already thanks to a few people wanting to impress us with their brillance, spelling excellence and general superior knowledge!

yes - they call it hijacking, yes?

bean. you are relentless. if someone said they like the solaris in black, you will be all over them. RELENTLESS.

Honestly guys, several of us keep trying to talk about the subject, and several of you do nothing but derail the conversation over and over again. Keep the personal attacks and childish comments to yourselves and we would have a much shorter, much more informative thread.

JNB, nice photos. But if you guys simply want to ohh and ahh over each others tank shots, then the photography forum might be a better venue. You can't simply throw a fit everytime somebody wants to discuss different aspects of this lighting system as it compares to others.

 

[jnb]

vote?

vote?

Hey Bean,

If RC admin allowed, would you abide by and accept a vote from the members who have previously posted to this thread?

no to vote that you no longer post to this thread;

yes to vote that you add value to the intended existence of this thread as thought by previous posters and are welcome and invited to continue to post?

Only prior posters to vote, 24 hours and the vote is over - does this work for you?

 

[Ti]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8934069#post8934069 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
oct 17 2006

jan 9 2007

nice

 

[jnb]

thank you

=8935596#post8935596 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Ti

 

[kneepuck]

Hmmmmmmm

 

[jacmyoung]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8934069#post8934069 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
oct 17 2006

jan 9 2007

Very nice indeed!

OT question for you jnb, from the pictures I have a feeling they are more than 125k, how did you get them posted on RC? I thought they limit the size to under 125k?

 

[elzool]

first pic is 65k, second is 80k

and no, i don't mean kelvin

 

[jnb]

thank you - yes, they definitely have that limit I think the compression factor gives a better result (smaller file with quality pic) because the pics were so dark to begin with (more pixels could be lost without harm) - I should try to find a better Nov shot - I takes lots of pictures (cause they tell stories - right?)
nick

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8938337#post8938337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacmyoung
Very nice indeed!

OT question for you jnb, from the pictures I have a feeling they are more than 125k, how did you get them posted on RC? I thought they limit the size to under 125k?

 

[jacmyoung]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8938705#post8938705 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
thank you - yes, they definitely have that limit - I should try to find a better Nov shot - I takes lots of pictures (cause they tell stories - right?)
nick

Ok then maybe I was using a wrong imaging software because my pictures are smaller less detailed but take up more bits.

Will a different imaging software work better, any suggestions? Thanks.

 

[MiddletonMark]

Folks, if you don't like someone's attitude, don't respond ... heck don't even read that post.

This board is about reefs, not about your impressions of other members.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8935171#post8935171 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeanAnimal
several of you feel justified in taking pot shots and personal jabs whenever possible.

<img src="/images/chimp_shaking_head.gif" width=120 height=82 border=0>
Don't exempt yourself from the warning.
I sure didn't.

Enough with the commentary, by all parties.

 

[MiddletonMark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8938921#post8938921 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacmyoung
Ok then maybe I was using a wrong imaging software because my pictures are smaller less detailed but take up more bits.

Will a different imaging software work better, any suggestions? Thanks.

Well, the Photo forum has some links in the sticky here.
Nevermind a bunch of threads dealing with the subject + people who can help

What do you use to resize the pics?
How do you set any compression when you save?

 

[jnb]

i cropped the pic taking it from 3008 by 2000 to 2998 by 1600 then resized it to 800 by 422 and comressed it to around 75% of 100%. PM me and I'll give you my email and perhaps help with suggestions - there are a couple of ways to go but relly being a darker photo helps I think - what software are you using?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8938921#post8938921 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jacmyoung
Ok then maybe I was using a wrong imaging software because my pictures are smaller less detailed but take up more bits.

Will a different imaging software work better, any suggestions? Thanks.

 

[badpacket]

Good greif Charlie Brown, someone made an off-topic post to a thread. Quick, call the Thread Police! Whats worse, an off-topic post, or two annoyed people both going ahead and replying to said off-topic post, off-topically?
LOL, please lets get a grip here.

owsi, why didn't you PM me with that comment instead of taking the thread even further off-topic?
PM? I've heard of them. PFO had the decency to PM me with some nice information last night.
For what its worth, I do not think you are in any way helping PFO with this sort of attitude and behavior. Trying to quash intelligent discussion is rather the option of last resort in forums. Do you think everyone else reading this thread but staying out of it, are convinced that several of you are not simply responding emotionally?

Posted by JNB-
"Hey Bean,

If RC admin allowed, would you abide by and accept a vote from the members who have previously posted to this thread?"

LOL, this is just too rich!!!

Hey Bean, we don't like your questions because gosh darn it, we can't seem to refute them scientifically. Even worse, you won't just fade away but keep coming back like a bad penny. Yeah we know we may be skewing the reality of the situation with our own personal views. But hey, we just spent x thousand dollars on these fixtures, and gosh darn it we deserve the right to crow and brag about how utterly fantastic they are. And how not only are they saving us money every month, but they are so efficient that they are spinning our utility meters -backwards- now.........
Stop raining on our parade with this scientific inquisition!

Oh, unless we decide we want to talk about something like evil MH-produced UV, the cause of global warming.

/sarcasm- Please, think of the Mods!!!!!

Seriously JNB, you've got a lot of gall asking someone to censor themself after some of the crap I've seen in this thread.
If the science is above your head, then don't get involved in the discussion.
If you want a nice thread safe for you, then start one that talks about ponies and rainbows? Outside of my nieces discussion of them, there is little else in this world which will not generate opposing views.
If PFO has a forum on RC, then perhaps your best bet too limit free speech would be there? Maybe you can ask PFO to ask the mods to ban people next?

The odd thing is, from PFO's PM, it sounds like they are covering most of their bases and may eventually be the Ushio of LED lighting. Without Bean and others like him, a lot of people on here would know a lot less about a number of things.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8934275#post8934275 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
yes - they call it hijacking, yes?