Solaris Led lighting systems

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8957032#post8957032 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BeanAnimal
765W @ 7 hours = 5.35 kWh per day
200W @ 12 hours = 2.4 kWh per day

Total 7.75 kWh per day being replaced by 4.5 kWh per day (assuming 10 hours full on for the SPS, and ignoring the lower wattage for the other 2 hours).

So the net savings is 3.25 kWh per day @ .14 cents = $0.455 a day in savings or, $13.65 a month.

I honestly do not think the single SOLARIS will have enough output, even at 10 hours of full brightness. I could be very wrong.

With regards to the AC. Because you DO NOT run a chiller, the HEAT difference between the current setup and the new setup will be 3.25kWh worth of "heat" that the AC will have to account for. Your house is not a perfect insulator and a good portion of that heat will escape on it's own. But to be fair lets say it takes 1.5 Watts of AC to remove 1 Watt of heat. So in the summer time you in theory could save 4.875 kWh a day + the initial 3.25 watts. That is a total 8.125 kWh a day or a TOTAL MAX SAVINGS OF $34 a month worst case during the days that the AC runs.

Again real world it will be much less than that. But lets just say $34 for 4 months and 13.65 for 8 months would average out to around $20 a month BEST CASE SAVINGS. Real world, your looking at $14-$16.

Not bad if you can get enough light. If you feel like going further we can calculate all of the costs. What you PAID for all of the current stuff and how much you think you can sell it for.

No I think you hit the nail on it's head
I was also calculating about $20 a month that is not bad at all considering i don't need to buy any bulbs for five years that will add up alat more than $20 a month savings for me.
MY light hood is 7 years old but the IC ballast are new .
Hey thanks for all the information about Electrical savings .
I may just go with a mix reef in the future and get the LEDs just because the heat in the summer makes my A/C work so hard the house is small and you can feel the heat from the MH in the living room where i have my tank.
I'm going to get a new tank soon so i was looking for new lighting for it .

 

[Steadyhand]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8952701#post8952701 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by underpar
Hi Rich,

Try http://www.theculturedreef.com/. They offered free shipping prior to the end of the year. Perhaps you might still be able to get in on that deal. Dick is very friendly and provides great service.

Good luck, Fred

Thank you, I will give then a try-

Rich

 

[reefnecker]

Nick,

what does cmm mean
do you find your solaris to be attractive enough for open top tanks - is your open top - pic please
thanks

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8954973#post8954973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
cmm

 

[jnb]

Hi reefnecker - and it looks as though you are a new member - welcome

yes, it is attractive enough - i wish it came in various colors - think I would like a color which blends - but frankly I can not pick a color off the top of my head - should it blend with the wall behind it, should it blend with the tank, something in between? still deciding that before I mod my backup light fixture to see...

cmm - well, i was a little harsh towards a member and decided to delete the post, but could not so I just edited it to cmm = changed my mind

feel free to ask questions regarding the solaris - this is a good thread for that - sort of - depending on what you ask

do you have a tank set up - picture?

for pics see gallery

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8961063#post8961063 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reefnecker
Nick,

what does cmm mean
do you find your solaris to be attractive enough for open top tanks - is your open top - pic please
thanks

 

[jnb]

i see you run t-5s are you thinking of coming over to the dark side? may I see a pic of your t5 tank?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8956368#post8956368 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crumbletop
No need to debate if you should let it go. It was merely a suggestion. It was farcical a couple of pages ago...

 

[crumbletop]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8961096#post8961096 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
i see you run t-5s are you thinking of coming over to the dark side? may I see a pic of your t5 tank?

Here is an older pic when my tank was sparsely populated and was mostly tiny frags. I'm not so good with the camera.

No, not thinking of getting the Solaris, but I'm curious to see how the corals do under them.

 

[jnb]

nice, funny how it blends to black torwards lower back pane - must be your background - my corals are happy enough - wait and see mode. looks like you are one of the few who wait to pack it with life before other parameters get good evidenced by nice coraline - kudos on having the right level of patience

how is your electric bill - just kidding, don't answer that

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8961123#post8961123 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crumbletop
Here is an older pic when my tank was sparsely populated and was mostly tiny frags. I'm not so good with the camera.


No, not thinking of getting the Solaris, but I'm curious to see how the corals do under them.

 

[owsi]

How can you ask that "how is your electric bill" even as a joke. Now I want to know what his monthly bill is, how many people in the household, type of refridgerator, gas or electric stove, oven, microwave, type of household heating, "R" rateing of walls and ceiling, type of windows, carpeted, wood or tile floor, with or without basement, how often people open doors and what type doors. Oh and If you don't know your KWH rate we can look that up, but I want documentation on everything else, no ball park guess's or oppinions!

 

[reefnecker]

Nick

hi yes. It is attrative as any I see. na, no tank yet, putting one togeather on paper and to the point of considering lights. Still figuring out what I am going to put into the tank. I have an experienced reef person helping. We are probably going with mixed reef. My friend has warned me about all the issues regarding various lights and our conveersation does come around to Solaris. An issue of heat comes up. The Solaris being the coolest running I understand. I really don't want my power bill going up much. I see that you project savings of at least $50 a month during various months. That is a big plus.

Can you feel heat from underneath the lights?
Is there heat coming out of the top?
Will running the Solaris at 75% cut down cost?

Thank in Advance to any advice

Ana

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8961078#post8961078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
Hi reefnecker - and it looks as though you are a new member - welcome

yes, it is attractive enough - i wish it came in various colors - think I would like a color which blends - but frankly I can not pick a color off the top of my head - should it blend with the wall behind it, should it blend with the tank, something in between? still deciding that before I mod my backup light fixture to see...

cmm - well, i was a little harsh towards a member and decided to delete the post, but could not so I just edited it to cmm = changed my mind

feel free to ask questions regarding the solaris - this is a good thread for that - sort of - depending on what you ask

do you have a tank set up - picture?

for pics see gallery

 

[mhurley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8961078#post8961078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnb
Hi reefnecker - and it looks as though you are a new member - welcome

Do you often enjoy talking to yourself?

Sorry, you brought that one on yourself. One User ID to a customer.

 

[andideris]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8961594#post8961594 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mhurley
Do you often enjoy talking to yourself?

Sorry, you brought that one on yourself. One User ID to a customer.

:lmao:

 

[Bergovoy]

cmon now. That cant be right??

 

[jnb]

yep, lol, its right and embarrassing - I asked him to take it down but I guess he did not believe me when I told him it was a practical joke by my fellow workers spawned by my fiance - like I told him, she will need to find someone else to play with tonight - I would think she would have known better being an alleged IT person

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8963365#post8963365 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bergovoy
cmon now. That cant be right??

 

[mhurley]

Please.....
I wont air this publicly anymore unless you want me to because it wont make you look any better. I'll respond via PM.

 

[STEELERFAN747]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8038029#post8038029 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Untamed12
Ok...I had to read that a few times, but I think I understand what you are saying.

According to the Solaris website, a 72" Solaris draws 450W (6 x 75W arrays). If I were to light 72"L x 24"W with 250W MH, I would need 3 of them. That suggests that I'm using 450W instead of 750W. (40% less power used)

So..you are saying that in the above example that I would be getting 40% less PUR?

Sorry but I just caught this. The staement that you would only need to use 3-250w mh's to light a 72"L x 24"w is true and the fact that using 450w instead of 750w being 40% less power is also true.

But what you are not taking into consideration is that the par and pur tests which compare the solaris to a 250w mh is for every 75w 1ft square, which means eventhough the solaris has less par (89.4%) you would actually be comparing 6- squares to 3 mh's.

Which if you make the statement that a solaris 75w 1ft square gives 89.4% par and a 250w mh gives 100% then do the math.

3-250w mh = 750w and 300% par
6-1ft 75w sq = 450w and 536.4% par :eek2: :eek1:

Which incredibly enough means you are actually getting 236.4% more par going with the solaris unit

 

[owsi]

Why do you think some experienced bleaching going from MH to Solaris? I acclimated and still saw lightening, now the Tort is getting a nice blue color.

 

[jnb]

same thing from another user whom I have pm'ing with - he finally turned it down to 80% and his issue is resolving

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8965899#post8965899 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by owsi
Why do you think some experienced bleaching going from MH to Solaris? I acclimated and still saw lightening, now the Tort is getting a nice blue color.

 

[STEELERFAN747]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8052330#post8052330 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
Again, where am I wrong in this thread?


Please keep this on topic, and keep from making personal jabs.

I dont mean to pick on you and I dont know if someone has already answered this but you stated that the actual figures of par was closer to 75% (lets say thats true) but saying that 3 250w mh's gives off more par than a 6ft solaris is untrue.

The par on the solaris is measured per square and comes with a 75w square per foot, so if you take a 6ft solaris unit and compare it to 3-250 mh's then even at 75% you would still have 150% more par than using the mh's.

I can understand your skeptic about a product that does not have the years of testing and backing as something as proven as mh's and that you and everyone else is intitled to their opinion, but to talk badly about it without conducting your own tests to make your own determination is a little unjust.

I for one feel that if you take into consideration that based on the fact that I just gave you (you will have more total par output), you will use 40% less power, you will be able to do without a chiller, you will have less evaporated water, you will not run your a/c as hard, you will not need timers and you will not have to replace bulbs as often (11 years) then it truely is a system that atleast deserves consideration and a little bit more respect (atleast until everything has been proven otherwise)

and as far as bulb replacement you stated that bulb replacements should be done once it reaches 10% decrease or every 2-3 years, yet if you gauge that on a flat % decrease per year (which it may not be) it would take about 3.3 years to reach that and the way technology is going it is very possible or almost certain that from here to 3 years the prices on the leds will have dropped and they will be much less expensive to replace.

On the same token, people usually replace mh bulbs once a year but if you are gauging % loss then it will probably be safe to say that a mh bulb will reach that in a bout 8 months.

I personally have set up a fishy bank and plan on purchasing a solaris lighting system once it has filled as I am able to see the benefits that can be acheived by such a system (just my .02)

 

[mako56]

I was told it would take two 72" units to fully cover my 24" wide tank.

 

[STEELERFAN747]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8966306#post8966306 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mako56
I was told it would take two 72" units to fully cover my 24" wide tank.

I do not own a solaris unit yet but I am making an educated guess. I dont feel you would need 2 units. Please remember that light beams widen the farther away it travels and that light intensity does not need to be the same from glass to glass unless you plan on putting corals up against the walls of the tank.

One unit should be plenty.