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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15634755#post15634755 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Recty
It's not really that hard to have a stable tank in a month, if you're taking already existing rock and placing it into a tank that is set up and ready for it. The LFS is just minutes away from my house, this would be pretty similar to just moving a tank from the bedroom to the living room for most people, just transferring rock to a new tank shouldnt cause much of a cycle at all, if any.

I've done it before with 75g tanks and had literally no ammonia or any other spikes.
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I try this many time unsuccessfully.
Reef tanks need to mature for six months or more to be ready for corals .
I saw some experience reefers have some success, but many reefers sooner or later will going to have problems.
Just completely new ball game with reef tanks.
But try you may be one of the lucky ones.
 
I wouldnt be putting in any hard to keep corals within the first couple months.

You might not be understanding me correctly though, I'm not going to just take barely live rock and stick it in a tank and call it good. The LFS I work with on some projects will give me GOOD LR direct from their displays that are covered in all kinds of good stuff and I'll be moving it like 5-10 minutes away to a tank.

I think I'll be successful, like I say I've done it on my 75g tank before I bought my 210 and had no problems, the corals and rock thrived in their new location and everything went great.

You've just got to be methodical and not make any mistakes :) I've had reef tanks a lot longer than I've had just a FOWLR tank, I really didnt get into the FOWLR scene until the last year or so. I always had fish in my reef tanks but not many and nothing "special" by any means, just your usual fish like clowns, dwarf angel and some anthias/chromis/damsels.

I'm not too worried about it, the LFS sets up tanks for people all the time this way, you just have to make sure and do all the steps right, including not leaving your rock out to dry at all and having very similar water chemistry when you do your transfer.
 
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Ha, I move tanks around, set up new ones and move corals around like damsels, zero problems! You really don't need the time some people say you do. Six months is crazy! At 6 months, my tank already needed an upgrade! It was moved from a 110g reef, to a 37g then to my current 120g. I keep softies, LPS, zoas, clams and a couple SPS, I never do water changes or check for anything and my corals continue to grow at a ridiculously fast pace! It would be different for SPS though, I am going to venture more into that with a different setup that I will actually have to take care of, but you just can't beat the hardiness of softies/most lps.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15636151#post15636151 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
No Recty i understand you the first time .
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Alright, good deal. I thought maybe I was giving off the idea that I was just going to take brand new, barely cured live rock and throw it in a tank and call it good.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15637354#post15637354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DamnPepShrimp
Ha, I move tanks around, set up new ones and move corals around like damsels, zero problems! You really don't need the time some people say you do. Six months is crazy! At 6 months, my tank already needed an upgrade! It was moved from a 110g reef, to a 37g then to my current 120g. I keep softies, LPS, zoas, clams and a couple SPS, I never do water changes or check for anything and my corals continue to grow at a ridiculously fast pace! It would be different for SPS though, I am going to venture more into that with a different setup that I will actually have to take care of, but you just can't beat the hardiness of softies/most lps.
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You really dont do water changes? Crazy, I've always done 10% water changes on my reef tank and considered that pretty essential, but I didnt just keep easy to keep LPS and softies, I had some nice acros and montis in there that I really wanted to thrive.

I think I'll get away with establishing a tank quicker than normal just because of the quality of LR I'll be getting, there should be almost no die off in a 5-10 minute transfer to another tank and I will have very similar water chemistry, so I'm not too worried about it.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing this reef set up man. If you keep corals like you do fish it's gonna be a sick set up.

I'm getting ready to do my first tank tear down and move. Hopefully it goes as smoothly as moves in your experience DPS.

Sorry to hear about the queen Recty. They're such beautiful fish it would be a disappointing loss even if you weren't attached.
 
It is going to be a slowly set up reef, it wont be much to see for a year or so. I'm going to just get small frags from a LFS for real cheap and grow them out, so it wont be anything special for a while.

I was sad to see the queen die too, sucks, she was a great fish. It's weird what happened to her and even weirder that no one else has any symptoms of anything.

So I decided to start trying to get my regal to eat zoanthids, just so she eats something...

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15641997#post15641997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gman107
what a great shot !!! didshe eat it???
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Unfortunately no, it hasnt eaten any of the polyps. I was really hoping it would...

My pH is only about 8.1 and the store has a pH of around 8.3-8.4 during the day, I dont think the zoas are liking the transfer downward in pH, I doubt they live more than a couple days in my tank so I hope the regal gets a hankering for them soon, otherwise I've killed them off for nothing.

Thanks for the link, Zoom. Right now I'm starting some brine shrimp hatching and I'll have them available either tomorrow night or else Saturday morning, hopefully those entice her to start eating from the water column. If that fails, I might put in an order for the black worms. At this point the order wouldnt get shipped out until Tuesday anyway so I can wait to see what happens this weekend.
 
Hey Recty,

Sorry to get off topic a little, but when you had all the Convict Tangs, how many did you have again and did they school around in your tank. I have one now and might look at getting a couple more, but wondering if they would school.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15644336#post15644336 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fender4string
Hopefully the regal starts eating. That shot really shows off what a beauty that fish is. I'll bet it's even better in person.
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That shot is actually almost a perfect representation of what she looks like in real life. She is pretty slow moving compared to some of my fish so I dont need to use a flash to freeze her in place, so I get pretty near to natural colors in the picture when I dont use the flash.

I hope she starts eating too! This has been a week and a couple days now of no eating. I'm hoping the live brine stimulate her to start eating, but only time will tell. I've been sick all week and just got back to work, so I'm not going to be able to start my brine until tonight which means I probably wont have any hatchlings until Saturday morning, but the regal isnt even skinny yet, I'm sure she will live that much longer.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15644391#post15644391 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bigred16
Hey Recty,

Sorry to get off topic a little, but when you had all the Convict Tangs, how many did you have again and did they school around in your tank. I have one now and might look at getting a couple more, but wondering if they would school.
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I had four convicts, all in the 3-4" range. They did swim around together, definitely not a true schooling fish though, they just swam together in a loosely connected group.

Personally, I wouldnt do it again. I got rid of three of them because they were aggressive towards each other and at times other fish. They got a sort of gang mentality going.

The three convicts are in a 600 gallon tank at a LFS and doing great, no squabbles or fighting at all, I think my 210 was just a little too small for what I was attempting. If you have a 400+ gallon tank, or at least an 8 foot long and 3 foot wide tank, I think you'd easily be able to get away with multiple convicts without any aggression issues.

They look really good in the 600 gallon tank. It's weird how such a plain fish looks so good, I was just in there the other day and heard a customer comment on those little fish with the black stripes and how good they looked. They are kind of elegant and not at all gaudy, a poor mans fish ;)
 
I'm beginning to get pretty worried. She wont eat anything... I havent tried live brine yet.

I forgot I have a funeral to go to this weekend so I'll be out of town Saturday and most of Sunday, but I'm going to start my brine hatching Sunday evening and should have it ready to feed on Monday evening, Tuesday morning at the latest. Really sucks that I have to be out of town this weekend, but that family wouldnt understand me missing the funeral for a fish.

A couple pictures of her... She is very curious, comes up to the front of the sump when I'm there as long as I move slow. She is still pretty skittish, I can spook her easily but if I'm calm she comes right up and looks at me. She watches all the foods I'm trying to feed just float down past her, she just shows no interest.

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I've been trying nori, mysis, brine shrimp, half clam, NLS pellets, both 3 mm and 1 mm sinking type, angel formula cubes cut up into small pieces and some type of marine cuisine thing that I've never cared much for, but it has brine shrimp and some veggies mixed in.

I've mixed in garlic, Zoe, Selcon and vitamin C, one at a time or all four at once and also with no supplements, the little girl looks at the pieces sometimes but never really does much.
 
At least she still looks pretty plump, I would think that such a small fish that hasnt ate anything in a week would be much skinnier, do you think she eating anything off of the live rock?

Hopefully she starts eating soon.
 
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