Some serious questions, please

I believe there is nothing for me to worry about

Probably not but in your first post you said the system was 6 weeks old and besides those fish you said you had about 27 inverts. I didn't know the rock and other things were from an older system.
If it was a normal 6 week old system and you added all of that life, then you could have had a problem, but if the system was old, don't worry about it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15228983#post15228983 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fingers68
OK this is getting ridiculous,

When have I said I added 21 new fish to a totally new system?

30 kg of live rock is 4 months old covered in coralline from my old running system,
16 kg 2 years old covered in coralline.
Sand from my old system.

10 fish were from my old system. none of which are over 2inch

I have added a further 11 small fish, all are under 2inchs, 4 are under 1inch.

I have over 800 ltrs of water in the system.

Other than the mandarin, I believe there is nothing for me to worry about, in the slightest. I would not have added the fish other wise.

I mean please, is this not getting a little irrational and slightly missleading?.

I meen hey, going by some of the advice here my tank sounds doomed, maybe I should empty it, take all the stock back to the shop, and start again.?

Like I say there has been some good advice, and there has been some comical anouncments considering the tank has not been viewed nore being aware of the full facts.

Typical internet forum really, take with a pinch of salt.
Here is just a personal opinion... lol, just like the rest. I wait 6 months before I put any fish in. Extreme, maybe. But I was learning... and never stop... I hope.

I see a guy with a newly set up 200g tank. You said there is stuff from your old tank... how old was it? How big was it? You have some 2 year old rock... from your friends? You show your 'Experience : 3 months'... I would love to have a Mandarin but again, like others said, I am nervous of starving him.

You have gone up against the house, and they responded with the best advice they know. Slow and thought out. You tell them that you are not going to heed their advice... worse, that they are wrong. I am in no way an expert... no stretch of the imagination... and I have been in salt now for 5 years. I haven't heard about the rest of that system yet. You got 21 little fish and a buncha friends in a new tank. Recipe for disaster? For sure. Are you for sure gonna crash and burn? Hell no! Your friends have the biggest tank in the free world... okay, cool. Did they load the tanks up during their first cycle stage? They have giant tanks, awesome... Means they have lots of money, and experience. Do they look after the tanks themselves? Or do they have people?

You have your back up. Understandable. But you have to understand that you started off with a bombshell of information, and follow with a light question... My house is on fire, the basement is flooded, there are termites and ants... but what I wanna know is why the toilet wont flush right.

Awesome ambition, and I really hope you don't get the chemical explosion that 'could' happen... all I have to offer is go slow.. slower, and watch that beast like a hawkfish. I think that will be what saves you. Diligence. I really hope you have a pair of fat and happy Mandarin couple, and your biggest problem is what to do with all the babies!
 
I got my mandarin with a pinched belly too and he pulled through. I got him about a year ago and put him in an established 58G. The display had about 60 pounds of LR and another 20 lbs in the fuge. I supplemented my fuge with tigger pods twice a month for 2months. When I saw the belly getting fuller I switched to seeding my fuge with live pods once a month for another 2 months. The mandarin kept putting on weight so i stopped. So even with a pinched belly, its very possible for the mandarin to recover.
 
Good to hear another success story of a mandarin pulling round from a pinched belly. I wish I could find a good source of live pods that I could inject into the system, but this seems not available in the UK. I had a good look with a torch last night and I was happy to find quite a population of adult pods, of differing types also. So I feel its only a matter of time for my fuge to start filling with life. In the meen time I am putting as much food and of differing type in the tank to feed him on top of what is clearly already in the system.

Also very happy to see the first sign of her top front fin, very shark like with no long point, so I guess I might have a female!

Also noticed 5 new crabs that have showed themselves, one of them is a porcelain crab the other a small Xanthid crab, the other 3 I need to ID. 2 are the same, big claws that look to be redish with black speckels. 1 has long shiny dark claws, sort of like a emerald crab but dark in colour.

No one has responded re the quality of live rock you guys get over there in the USA. It sounds like you have to flush it out from scratch?
 
No one has responded re the quality of live rock you guys get over there in the USA. It sounds like you have to flush it out from scratch?

I really don't know, I never bought any.
I collected it all myself so I guess it was great quality.
Of course that was many years ago and I bleached it in the hotel room before I could take it on the plane. So it was great "dead" rock.
It is now live again. :D
 
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