something dead..

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stabruciandosi

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so i got back from finals yesterday to find my tank completely clouded up, there isnt even a ripple anymore.. i think that one of the silversides i fed my anemone must have been expelled but i cant find it! any ideas on how to deal with this problem? im doing a water change as i type and im thinking of doing another one, ive looked all over the tank for a corpse, but nothing.. also i have a few frags im about to introduce to the tank but i dont want to if the water is all cloudy like this ahhh!
 
Cloudy? Often times this means things are dying. How are your other corals? Any foul odor coming from the tank/water? What's the temp? What do you mean by "there isnt even a ripple anymore"? Does this mean that your current stopped? Need more info. before we can give reliable advice I'm afraid.
 
something much worse than just s silver side would have caused this. a single silverside will nt cause your tank to cloud up that bad or at all. something larger must have died, spawned, or expelled something. If i were you i would start running carbon and do a few decent sized water changes
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7034614#post7034614 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SLOreefer
something much worse than just s silver side would have caused this. a single silverside will nt cause your tank to cloud up that bad or at all. something larger must have died, spawned, or expelled something. If i were you i would start running carbon and do a few decent sized water changes
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ditto :)

-Justin
 
Did someone throw some sugar in it and cause a bacterial bloom?

Is it a white/gray cloudy?

In a mischevious life, I through a soda into a 125 FW and caused a bloom like a fog that rolled in.
 
as far as the ripple goes, it was just making it so the light wasnt quite making it to the bottom of the tank, to give you an idea of how cloudy it was this morning. right now its a hazy white cloud, all the corals look fine.. the frogspawn was great in the morning and now looks kinda shrivled but still open, the candycane also is a bit shrivled now so im kinda worried. everything still looks alive though. Could the RBTA have expelled something that would cloud up the water like this?

Salinity looks fine, params are perfect, just the ammonia is at 0 - .25. I just changed the water and im gunna run to petco and get some carbon filter stuff and throw it in the bac pak to see if that helps. any other ideas?
 
Check your pH, dKH and Calcium. Somehow things could have gotten out of whack and the calcium precipitated out. Is there any white particulate settling on powerheads, wals, etc?
 
there is a bit of sediment more brown than white but yes some white. what can i do about geting everything back in whack? and the pH param was fine i need to get some for calcium and dKH
 
You should have no traceable amonia whatsoever. And chances that it tested at that means it was higher at one time before or more concentrated in another area of the tank. Nitrites soon to follow,stay tuned:)

A heavy water change is the best thing you could do. I would follow w/ daily water changes at least 5% (at the very least) for a week.Amonias lethal stuff, wiped me out of everything but a few coral I had and a beautifull bunch of fish. Good luck man!

-Justin
 
not new tank syndrome. could be a bacterial bloom or precipitation of solids from your water. If it doesn't clear up, I have some Pro Clear that I used to clear up what I thought was a bacterial bloom caused by vodka (intentionally dosed when cycling, not dumped in by my roommate!! lol) but I now think it was suspended particles. Anyway, Pro Clear worked, and it takes next to nothing.. I see you're in Davis.. and you're a student.. as am I, but I'll be back in Davis on monday should you desire some of his precious blue liquid made by Kent Marine.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7036457#post7036457 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stabruciandosi
i started the tank in september last year.. could it still be?
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No. But doesnt mean that "cycles" wont/cant happen. It just means that amonia is or was present therefor starting the nitrogen cycle=amonia->nitrite->nitrate->nitrogen gas. This can happen in a whole gammit of different ways, but the most common that everyone goes through is a tanks first innitial cycle.

Stirring an old patch of sand or embedded rock,dead animal,over feeding to name a few culprits.

-Justin
 
It sounds like a precipitation to me, do you dose anything at all, run a reactor of any sort, and any sort of chemicals?
 
no reactor or any chemicals to the main tank. In the morning im going to do another water change and see how things turn out from there. That and ive decided i need a more accurate test kit for ammonia. if no one has any objections i think ill get ahold of Tristan for the pro clear, but before i add that im going to make sure it is a precipitation with some more tests and figure out why the chemicals are haywire.
 
if you are testing any ammonia i believe that to be the root of the problem. how does the anenome look? ive seen tanks get milky after an anenome dies...how large of wc are you doing?
 
I cant object its your tank :D But this hobby is alot of cause and effect, if you just treat the effect your always left with the cause, and will be blue in the face till you find it and fix it. Ok, Im done ;)

-Justin
 
well im trying to find the problem but nothing seems to be dead, ive turned over the entire tank, the ammonia has gone no where, i need a more accurate param to be sure its even at .25. right now the water is a lot clearer than yesterday. and im doing 20%water changes.
 
Dead animals dont stay around long in a reef:)Chances are its already eaten or pulled into a crevice to be eaten slowly. Or could possibly be just wedged decaying in a crack. Regardless it will be consumed entirely, and with your maintenace your doing youll be back to normal in no time.

-Justin
 
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