Something going on here?

So here's a good reference from a scientist not just some anecdotal jib jab. I like this site and use it a lot. A bit of the info is dated, however, in this hobby, you have to want to learn.
Don't give up if the fish die. That's all part of the hobby. There's so much to learn and it's really a great community of people!

http://wetwebmedia.com/ichartmar.htm
 
FoxyFace said:
So here's a good reference from a scientist not just some anecdotal jib jab. I like this site and use it a lot. A bit of the info is dated, however, in this hobby, you have to want to learn.
Don't give up if the fish die. That's all part of the hobby. There's so much to learn and it's really a great community of people!

http://wetwebmedia.com/ichartmar.htm
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I'll be honest. I love the community of people in this hobby. Always willing to help each other out and I'll always be willing to do the same
 
Sorry to hear about your ick outbreak, at least you were able to QT your fish and get treatment going. Not something to enjoy right before T-Day. :sad2:

If you don't mind, some background info on your fish: what kind, how long you had them, and any recent additions. Like to know what was the introduction of the ick to your tank.

Thanks!
 
Aframomum said:
Sorry to hear about your ick outbreak, at least you were able to QT your fish and get treatment going. Not something to enjoy right before T-Day. :sad2:

If you don't mind, some background info on your fish: what kind, how long you had them, and any recent additions. Like to know what was the introduction of the ick to your tank.

Thanks!
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Yellow tang - 7 months
Dragon goby - 6 months
Clown fish - 8 months
Cleaner shrimp - 4 months
Butterfly - 3 months
Foxface - 3 months
Pajama - 4 months
5 blue chromis - 8 months
Coral banded - 1.5 months
Blue tang - 2 months
Hawk fish - 6 months
Coral beauty - 4 months


No new additions since coral banded to be honest
 
Search ich treatment in the search box for this site and you should get all the info you need. To me it looks like you've had ich for quite a while. Usually in my experience, whenever I've had a fish look this infested it dies. So I would definitely reccomend treating then right away.
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@OP - I clicked on the thread thinking the title was interesting. It was heartbreaking to see the picture of your copperband and clowns because it was very clear what the problem was, and it looks very severe indeed. I assumed they would all die

Respect due to your response though. Actually getting the fish out the tank to treat is the right approach. Its a lot of work and a PITA to do. Most beginners look for some magic answer and leave the fish in the tank. Those people tend to leave the hobby over time which is best all around IMO.

Everyone makes mistakes, but you're learning from yours and I applaud you.

Copper treatment in another tank or brute is their best chance. Don't skimp on the fallow period, and they may all make it.

-droog
 
Droog, I agree with you on everything accept for one. I'm positive that's not a Copperband Butterfly, I'm pretty sure it's a Klein's Butterfly.

I prefer the TTM mostly because it's not as hard on the fish as Copper is and many fish don't do well with copper. I've heard of mixed results with Hypo because the sg has to be at 1.09 or below and if it goes to 1.10 it has to be started all over again.
 
Aframomum said:
Thank you. Just curious as to where the ick came from as it seems you've had a stable disease free tank for some time.
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That's what I've been trying to figure out also. They never showed signs of anything, even the day before I was cleaning the glass and feeding them. Did not notice anything on any of them than boom, it all came out overnight

All the fish are currently eating fine and happy and have been since I first got them
 
Dkuhlmann said:
Droog, I agree with you on everything accept for one. I'm positive that's not a Copperband Butterfly, I'm pretty sure it's a Klein's Butterfly.

I prefer the TTM mostly because it's not as hard on the fish as Copper is and many fish don't do well with copper. I've heard of mixed results with Hypo because the sg has to be at 1.09 or below and if it goes to 1.10 it has to be started all over again.
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Yup, hit it right on the dot. Its a Klein's butterfly
 
droog said:
@OP - I clicked on the thread thinking the title was interesting. It was heartbreaking to see the picture of your copperband and clowns because it was very clear what the problem was, and it looks very severe indeed. I assumed they would all die

Respect due to your response though. Actually getting the fish out the tank to treat is the right approach. Its a lot of work and a PITA to do. Most beginners look for some magic answer and leave the fish in the tank. Those people tend to leave the hobby over time which is best all around IMO.

Everyone makes mistakes, but you're learning from yours and I applaud you.

Copper treatment in another tank or brute is their best chance. Don't skimp on the fallow period, and they may all make it.

-droog
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I've never delt with this before and I hope never again. I hate seeing them not in my display because it took me months to get my dream tank set up including the money to buy the equipment and the extra month on top I let the tank cycle

I got lucky because I was in the process of building my first sump for my 125 gallon. Luckily it was a 50 gallon sump so I managed to have everything ready by the time I did some research and feedback from people. Picked up all my equipment needed and starting the healing process

I was hoping it wouldn't go this far and things would get better but I invested so much time and money into this tank, I couldn't let it go to waste.

Now that I did some research and got my brother in law into the hobby a while back. I actually found out he has it also, he didn't notice it until yesterday. I started the process for him also so technically I'm doing this for 2 tanks hoping for the best outcome for me and him
 
Dkuhlmann said:
Droog, I agree with you on everything accept for one. I'm positive that's not a Copperband Butterfly, I'm pretty sure it's a Klein's Butterfly.

I prefer the TTM mostly because it's not as hard on the fish as Copper is and many fish don't do well with copper. I've heard of mixed results with Hypo because the sg has to be at 1.09 or below and if it goes to 1.10 it has to be started all over again.
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Thanks, I mistakenly assumed the ID from a previous post was correct.

From what I've read here, both copper and TTM are superior to hypo. Copper may be more stressful in one way, but the catching of fish to do TTM is also stressful. I guess it depends how adept one is at the TTM method.

All approaches that deal with the actual root case are better than the magic itch treatment potions, garlic "cure" etc.

Rooting for these fish (and now both tanks). Please update the thread, let us know how it goes. Initial symptoms looked very bad. If they are still alive now, hopefully they can pull through!

-droog
 
droog said:
Thanks, I mistakenly assumed the ID from a previous post was correct.

From what I've read here, both copper and TTM are superior to hypo. Copper may be more stressful in one way, but the catching of fish to do TTM is also stressful. I guess it depends how adept one is at the TTM method.

All approaches that deal with the actual root case are better than the magic itch treatment potions, garlic "cure" etc.

Rooting for these fish (and now both tanks). Please update the thread, let us know how it goes. Initial symptoms looked very bad. If they are still alive now, hopefully they can pull through!

-droog
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Currently still alive and eating, just fed them a hour ago
 
It happened same to me around 10 months ago with almost all my fishes, just soak the food in vitamin and garlic before each meal, problem solved in about 2 weeks
 
thats really nad ich
take fish oit of tank and put them in a salt water bath then fresh water then salt water it kills ich i do it all the time. or buy some ich remover at your local store
 
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