species question

notenoughtanks

notenoughtanks

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Hey guys, got my order today. Despite the below zero temperatures in Minnesota and Wisconsin, everything was at least 70 degrees and well packed, thanks!

Have a quastoin regarding on of the corals I recieved. I ordered an ORA stuber stag, but this appears to be a miami orchid. It is identical to my ORA miami orchid. Just wondering if it was possible there was a mix up. Are these corals in seperate labeled areas, or are they picked based upon the selectors knowledge of their appearance? Or is the stuber stag the same coral as the miami orchid? Just wanted to clear this up so I know what I have.
Thanks guys, again, awesome packing!
Ben
 
Notenoughtanks,

Thank you for the positive comments on the condition and packing of your order. The ORA Stuber Staghorn and the ORA Miami Orchid may appear similar, but are different corals. We do house these beautiful corals in separate labeled areas in our Aquacultural Coral and Marine Life Facility. We are very interested in customer satisfaction. We would be happy to view a picture of your coral if you can e-mail us a picture to techsupport@drsfostersmith.com. We would like to investigate this to ensure you have received the correct specimen.

Pat S.
Drs. Foster and Smith
LiveAquaria
 
sure, let me see what I can do. What brought this to my attention was the color of the tips and how the purple blends into the brown. The new growth areas are purple while the corallites on these areas remain brown. I cannot email any sizeable attachments ( I am still clinging to my netzero free email :)) I'll just post it here.
 
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I'm guessing this one broke in transit to your facility, funky growth form.
 
Notenoughtanks,

Thank you for your reply. We are investigating your pictures to verify their identity. To determine our best course of action at this time, we ask that you contact us via email, phone, or PM with your order information, including your order number, if available, and your full name and address.

Nate M.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith
 
If it helps this is my Miami Orchid ORA, ordered from LiveAquaria, does not necessary have brown coralites on the growth tips.

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Ben,

Thank you for your patience while we obtained this information from our Aquaculture Coral & Marine Life Facility.

Our Director has reviewed the pictures you have posted and double-checked our current livestock, and he is fully confident that you have received the correct coral. This coral grows very fast and is brown with blue tips. The thickness of the base that you see is where the original coral was propagated in our facility.

If you have further questions please feel free to contact us. We are happy to assist you with any questions you may have.

Joyce F.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster & Smith
 
Hi my system is bare bottom but the miami orchid grows quite fast for me and is healthy. I have lost the deep brown body and dark purple tips that it originally came with. I think your stuber is beautiful also and would like to try it one day
 
The thickness of the base that you see is where the original coral was propagated in our facility.
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Does this mean the coral I recieved has be fragmented since you guys acquired it? I did not know you took frags off the ORA corals prior to sale. If this is the case I must admit it is dissapointing to hear that this coral was fragged and still offered for sale, rather than just using the whole thing for propagation.
 
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Notenoughtanks,

Thank you for your question and we sincerely apologize for any confusion. However, the ORA Stuber Staghorn had not been propagated to sell as a DFS frag. It needed to be trimmed to prevent any unwanted breakage during shipping as the branches on this coral had grown to approximately four or five inches. Without doing so, we were concerned that it would arrive in many pieces. Thank you for allowing us to clarify this information.

Chris C.
Live Aquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith
 
that makes more sense I guess.. however all the frags did arrive with broken pieces, which is normal anyways.

I do get that at that size it would have warranted a greater price which would be fair as your system allowed it to grow to that size, and it was surely not offered at that size by ORA.

Thanks again for confirming the identity of the coral, and I look forward to doing business with you in the future.

Oh, on a side note.... Do you guys expect the german green w. blue polyp or turquise stag anytime soon? I lost these two along with many others to the acro bacteria "vibrio" and have not yet been able to re-acquire them.

Thanks, Ben
 
notenoughtanks,

It was a pleasure speaking with you over the phone to let you know that these beautiful frags should be available late next week. As we discussed, if at anytime you have questions or concerns regarding an order please feel free to contact us. We will be happy to assist you.

Chris C.
Live Aquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith
 
Thanks for the call, I really appreciate it. I apologize for the way my post may have sounded, only small tips were broken on the corals, which is very understandable when shipping ORA corals. It is a brittle branching coral with almost no base after all. The broken spots have already healed over and the corals are showing excellent polyp extension and color!

One more question if an answer is obtainable. I got one of the ORA green birdsnests, are these kept as close to the lights and in as heavy flow as the ohter ORA stuff (acros)?
 
I did read that, but was looking for something more specific, as in the conditions they are actually kept in at your facility. example: light-16 inches under 400w 20k halide,flow-(insert pump here) in a 200 gallon system. I ask because it is showing poor polyp extension and starting to recede a bit while the three acros are thriving. Thanks in advance if this information can be had.
Ben
 
Notenoughtanks,

Thank you for your post. We have some more specific information for you. In our Aquaculture Coral and Marine Life Facility, we have the lighting approximately 26” high with 400 watt 20k double ended halides. They are not directly under the light, as we have a suspension system with the lights moving back and forth on a rail. Therefore they are not lit at all times. For placement of your corals we would advise starting out low in the tank or off to the side of the light if you have 250 watt or higher wattage. Moderate to high flow is recommended, however small frags can get away with a little less flow, because the water can circulate around all the branches. As they grow in size, they will need a little more flow rate to reach the branches in the middle.

You may wish to review more information on our LiveAquaria when clicking on this link. We supply information on our Coral Broodstock and Grow-out Area.


We hope you find this information helpful.

Pat S.
LiveAquaria
Drs. Foster and Smith
 
Boy, you weren't kidding about the Stuber! It already has new corallites 1/4" long popping up everywhere! nice blue tips and encrusting growth. The Roscoe's is also lokking great and the secale is coloring up nicely.

The birdnest on the other hand looks pretty bad :( I have it in medium light and medium to high intermittent flow. it loosing tissue all around. Can't figure out why. All params are in check, temp is a steady 77-77.8. Bummer, it's such a beautiful coral.
 
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