stand using no screws glue only?

[goda]

i was looking at my tenecor stand and knoticed. there is no nails or screws its held together with glue. ( and they didnt even do that thing where they make the ends knotched toincrease streangth of the joint)
think it will be ok

there is one spot where the wood looks a lil pulled back form another piece of wood. im not sure if it came like this or if it peeled back over hte past year ( wish i knoticed this sooner!

 

[cornelious0_0]

Maybe try to re-epoxy the panels togethor...but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with that type of build holding up my baby.

 

[goda]

looking closer it looks likeit was buyilt that ways but still

GLUE!!! geez

 

[Silencer]

Glue can be amazingly strong but I agree it just doesn't "feel" right. I still can barely believe that the thin cheaply built retail stands can hold the weight of a tank at all.

 

[fsa]

A good glue will hold better than screws. Most tests that I have "read" about show the wood breaking under stress before the glued joints break. I wouldn't worry too much about it, if it is not coming unglued.

Frank

 

[goda]

screws hold up better to shaking forces and such. glue can slowly crack from vibrations ( say the water vibrating down a pipe)
a combo of glue and screws woulda been better

 

[davocean]

Actually glue is stronger than nails when cabinet is designed well.
I've worked for several high end cabinet shops that have said this as well.
Still, I'm into overkill in a marine environment.
Watch to see if seems are failing, add screws if need be

 

[cornelious0_0]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7330667#post7330667 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by davocean
Actually glue is stronger than nails when cabinet is designed well.
I've worked for several high end cabinet shops that have said this as well.
Still, I'm into overkill in a marine environment.
Watch to see if seems are failing, add screws if need be

I've got a friends dad in the same line of work, and I agree with this also...but if you're going for a general run of the mill stand for a hundred bux or two then screws are probly gonna suffice.

 

[Bri Guy]

All-Glass makes their stands with only particle board and glue. Seems fine like daveocean said glue now days is just as strong as nails if it is used correctly and if that is a manufactured stand Im sure Its ok. Is this stand the one for your 205?

 

[davocean]

I would be more concerned with particle board failing.
I'm guessing there must be solid wood supports, I hope.
If you could post pics that would help.

 

[azreefer]

The stand is assembled using glue and a nail gun. The nails simply hold the parts together while the glue dries. As mentioned, the glue is much stronger than the wood when dry.

 

[crumbletop]

Yes, I remember demos when I was woodworking -- we'd glue some boards together and then break them when dried. They never broke where the glue was...

Jack

 

[goda]

i think its mdf wood or somthing ( it deffinitly is manufactures. not solid)

but these people couldent get hte tank seams right what make me think they did the wood part right ( if they can cut a corner some where i bet thell do it where it cant be seen)

anyways. i would add screws but am worried about cracking the wood O_O
(btw the tank is 130 gallons or so)

and hey theres a tenecor guy...

( dont wanna turn this into a tenecor thread. wanna keep this about the stand)

do you guys think i should add 2x4's for extra support ?

also i am thinking of painting the inside of the stand since i see a small black area ( mold i am guessing )
its right above my refuge so im guessing its high humidity
ill take some picts once i fix my camera. but one of the supports seems like its cracking. not sure if the wood is structual or if it is just there to hold the doors.

 

[davocean]

Yeah, I personally hate MDF or particle board for marine.
2x4's not a bad idea.
ALWAYS predrill b4 screwing to avoid splitting.
I wouldn't paint, but get airflow/circulation somehow, little fan maybe?
If I saw pics I could tell you exactly what I would do.

 

[meco65]

If it MDF and there is mold from high humidity I would think about replaceing the stand. Its been my experience that it just dose not last after it has been wet.

 

[goda]

mdf and partical board are two different things. mdf ( apparently according to lumber guy) is stronger then wood of the same size. i know its deffinitly heavier

 

[davocean]

It's strong until it gets wet, then it starts to crumble.
I would never have MDF or particle board near water.
It's a temporary stand either way you look at it, almost no matter what you do.
Failure could be disasterous.
That's a pretty heavy tank.
I would for sure have solid supports at the very least

 

[goda]

i think the top plank is reglular wood.

 

[Ti]

 

[davocean]

Well, that's good, but base is where the water usually ends up.
But you could probably just put 2x4's inside for bracing to gaurantee structural support if you're concerned.

Love the gorilla glue!!!LOL