stocking a 10 gallon

cowboy99

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ok so right now I haven't started to cycle my tank yet. I am going to be adding 10 lbs of live rock in a couple of weeks.

When should I start adding inverts? Which ones first?

The inverts I am hoping to eventually keep:

blue and red dwarf hermits 4 or 5
snails( not sure which kind is best) ??
cleaner shrimp (lysmata amboinensis) 2
and corals

opinions and suggestions welcome
 
Snails and hermits first, but slowly. test your water, and one the ammonia and nitrite reach 0, and mitrate is less thn 20, you can start to add them. Cleaner shrimp after snails/hermits, and then corals. Make sure you have enough lighting though.
 
I would add the inverts in the order you listed. Hermits are bulletproof. If you kill them then there is something seriously wrong with your tank. Snails are alittle trickier make sure you acclimate them well and also wait til you have a bit of algae to sustain them. Cleaner shrimps can get a shock and die if not acclimated right otherwise they are very hardy. Corals.... we'll talk about them when you get there, which won't be at least another 2 months.
 
thanks

and how do the numbers of each sound?

4 or 5 hermits

?? amount of snails(what type should I get, Astrea?)

2 cleaner shrimp

or does it depend on my algae situation?
 
Greetings Cowboy99,

Kudos to you for asking the right questions, and for asking them before you start your tank!

There is an excellent series of articles by Eric Borneman in Reefkeeping Magazine called Mything the Point. Part 3 of this series has a section called Concepts about Nitrification, Stocking Orders, and the New Tank. It is highly informative and should address many of your questions. You can find Part 3 of this series here.

In this article, Eric proposes the following procedure for setting up a new tank:

1. Live rock- wait three months- let algae bloom and take up waste, helping the "cycle".

2. Add variety of herbivores- let them feast on the algae in the really clean water.

3. Wait a few more months:
- algae will get eaten, corallines will grow
- spend the time planning the inhabitants, reading
- monitor, familiarize, and dial in water quality
- watch "pods" and worms grow and reproduce- make it a "feast" in the reef with no predation

4. Add stony corals and pioneer species- the water is perfect for them now.

5. Wait a few more months- grow a reef!

6. Add some carnivorous reef fish- they now have a high water quality, structurally complex, natural healthy reef... they'll thrive...no ick!!

Plus, this well established reef can now handle the food inputs they will require.

PATIENCE IS THE #1 TOP TIP BY A PANEL OF EXPERTS....SERIOUSLY!!


Another way of looking at it is "Enjoy the journey!". Too many people are in a hurry to get to the final destination: a beautiful reef tank packed with corals and reef fish.

In addition to Eric's excellent recommendations, I would like to offer a few (not so excellent) of my own:

1. Start your daily photoperiod and add daily additions of live phytoplankton to your tank from Day 1. (I highly recommend DT's). Live phytoplankton will do two things for you. First, it will feed off of ammonia thus helping to reduce the levels of this poison in the tank and minimize die off. Second, it will feed your filter feeders that come in on the live rock, thus helping to keep a high level of biodiversity in your tank. I would recommend one dose just before lights on and one dose after lights out.

2. Remember that you want to get through the nitrogen cycle with a minimum of die off. This means that you want to keep your ammonia levels as low as possible, preferably ZERO. With a small 10 gallon tank, I would recommend large, daily water changes with new, clean salt water with matching temperature and pH.

3. Hold off on the hermits, at least initially. They are opportunistic predators that can put a big dent in your biodiversity, especially in a small, unestablished tank like yours.

4. When it is time to add snails, add only one. Wait a few weeks and add a second one if you think the tank can handle it. I recommend smaller snails such as trochus and astrea over the larger turbos, especially in a 10 gallon.

5. You have a small tank, so do your best to minimize predation. Cleaner shrimps can be effective predators of sand bed and live rock fauna. Don't add one until your tank is very well established.

Here's a brief description of my tank for comparison: My system is a 25 gallon reef that I setup 3 years ago. I have one ocellaris clown and one lawnmower blenny. My "macro" cleanup crew consists of 1 emerald crab and 1 trochus snail. My "micro" cleanup crew consists of hundreds (thousands?) of worms, pods and various other itty, bitty creatures. I may add one additional snail (probably an astrea) in the near future. Aside from a dusting of phytoplankton on the glass that I clean weekly, there is not much microalgae growth. In fact, I have to supply weekly feedings of algae strips for my blenny to keep him fat and happy.

I hope all this helps. Whatever you decide to do, document the process with lots of pictures. It will be instructive to you and will help you when you setup your next, larger tank.

Best,
Q
 
Here's another link to an Eric Borneman article:

http://www.marinedepot.com/FORUMS/Topic23945-9-1.aspx

I think that the concluding paragraph says it best:

My advice on starting tanks is to plan the habitat you want. Find the animals and corals you like. Learn about the tiny area of the reef you will try and recreate, and do not try to make a whole coral reef in one tank. Then, purchase the equipment required to emulate that environment. Then, add the appropriate types of substrate (sand, rubble, rock, whatever) and wait long after ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œyour tank water tests fineââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ before you add fish and corals. First, add herbivores and maintain water quality. Water changes, carbon, skimming, alkalinity, calcium. Keep the water of high quality, even for things you canââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t test for. Wait a few months and enjoy the growth that will happen. Then, add some of the species that you plan to keepââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦.invertebrates and corals. They help create the environment, and also photosynthesize, add biodiversity, stabilize nutrients, etc. Thenââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦.thenââ"šÂ¬Ã‚¦.add fish. The fish will have a reef as their new home. They wonââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t be stressed by this variable bouilllabaise of water and a strange habitat that keeps changing as things are added or die. They will have a stable tank with real habitat, and then the original concept you imagined will have happened.

Hope this helps,
Q
 
ive got the perfect invert for you.
Meet Shredder.
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