Stocking advice and sequence to add

[NancyT3]

Good morning, I have used some prior recommendations and advice on stocking and read up on it, but would appreciate your advice on my proposed stocking list as well as guidance on order in which to add the fish. Also if better in multiples or couples vs single fish. If you have alternates that are better, please offer that up as well.

System info: I have a Planet Aquarium glass. 140 gal tank 48"x 24" x 29". Using a sump, AF 200 Alpha Fuge Refugium Sump, Supreme Aqua Mag 1200 GPH Pump, Aquatop 500s Titanium heater, AlHydra 32HD LED (2), and a Aragonite Alive Fiji pink course sand plus LIve Rock structure. We are doing the full set up on Saturday and will start cycling. Using the LFS store water both RO for an auto drip for evaporation and the saltwater for 10% weekly changes.

Here is my proposed list:
2 Ocellaris Clownfish, Amphiprion ocellaris
2 Royal gramma, Gramma loreto
5 Lyretail Anthias, Pseudanthias squamipinnis
a paired goby and red banded pistol shrimp
1 coral beauty angelfish, Centropyge bispinosa
1 orange butterfly fish, Chaetodon kleini
2 blue-green chromis, Chromis viridis
1 orange-back fairy wrasse, Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis


Also considered, but eliminated because of space/ ratio of adult fish size to tank size
Chalk bass, Purple firefish, yellow-tail Damselfish.

What do y'all think?

Thank you!
Nancy

 

[griss]

Depending on the Clown species, some can be territorial (Tomatoes, Maroons, Clarkiis) and may need to be added later down the list. Have you decided which species of Clowns?

Do you know more specifically what species the Orange Butterflyfish is? Chaetodon Kleini? If so, those tend to be peaceful if my memory serves.

Overall, if you're doing fish only, it might be a bit crowded but that's my opinion. I personally lean more towards fewer fish and more corals/inverts.

As for adding the list above. I would add the Coral Beauty and possibly the Clowns (see above comment about the specific species of the Clowns) last as those have potential to be a bit aggressive.

 

[NancyT3]

Depending on the Clown species, some can be territorial (Tomatoes, Maroons, Clarkiis) and may need to be added later down the list. Have you decided which species of Clowns?

Do you know more specifically what species the Orange Butterflyfish is? Chaetodon Kleini? If so, those tend to be peaceful if my memory serves.

Overall, if you're doing fish only, it might be a bit crowded but that's my opinion. I personally lean more towards fewer fish and more corals/inverts.

As for adding the list above. I would add the Coral Beauty and possibly the Clowns (see above comment about the specific species of the Clowns) last as those have potential to be a bit aggressive.

Thank you. I added the species into an edited stock list above.

 

[Reefing102]

I agree with @griss. Even ocellaris clowns can be territorial. You’d definitely be leaning heavier on stocking and with anthias feeding requirements, maybe pushing bioload. I would consider adding a skimmer in this case to help with potential nutrient export

 

[shred5]

Good morning, I have used some prior recommendations and advice on stocking and read up on it, but would appreciate your advice on my proposed stocking list as well as guidance on order in which to add the fish. Also if better in multiples or couples vs single fish. If you have alternates that are better, please offer that up as well.

System info: I have a Planet Aquarium glass. 140 gal tank 48"x 24" x 29". Using a sump, AF 200 Alpha Fuge Refugium Sump, Supreme Aqua Mag 1200 GPH Pump, Aquatop 500s Titanium heater, AlHydra 32HD LED (2), and a Aragonite Alive Fiji pink course sand plus LIve Rock structure. We are doing the full set up on Saturday and will start cycling. Using the LFS store water both RO for an auto drip for evaporation and the saltwater for 10% weekly changes.

Here is my proposed list:
2 Ocellaris Clownfish, Amphiprion ocellaris
2 Royal gramma, Gramma loreto
5 Lyretail Anthias, Pseudanthias squamipinnis
a paired goby and red banded pistol shrimp
1 coral beauty angelfish, Centropyge bispinosa
1 orange butterfly fish, Chaetodon kleini
2 blue-green chromis, Chromis viridis
1 orange-back fairy wrasse, Cirrhilabrus aurantidorsalis


Also considered, but eliminated because of space/ ratio of adult fish size to tank size
Chalk bass, Purple firefish, yellow-tail Damselfish.

What do y'all think?

Thank you!
Nancy

Is it a reef? If so the butterfly probably not such a good idea. Butterfly's can be finicky eaters and hard to keep.

A paired goby and pistol shrimp in that tank may get lost and rarely seen.

2 grammas unless a pair might fight but honestly in a tank that size you are probably ok and just bicker over the best hole in the rock.

Purple file fish would not survive and be bullied..

I would stay away from the green Chromis unless they are quarantined. Pretty much every batch I see has one with Uronema.

 

[NancyT3]

Is it a reef? If so the butterfly probably not such a good idea. Butterfly's can be finicky eaters and hard to keep.

A paired goby and pistol shrimp in that tank may get lost and rarely seen.

2 grammas unless a pair might fight but honestly in a tank that size you are probably ok and just bicker over the best hole in the rock.

Purple file fish would not survive and be bullied..

I would stay away from the green Chromis unless they are quarantined. Pretty much every batch I see has one with Uronema.

Thank you! Appreciate the advice!

 

[NancyT3]

I agree with @griss. Even ocellaris clowns can be territorial. You’d definitely be leaning heavier on stocking and with anthias feeding requirements, maybe pushing bioload. I would consider adding a skimmer in this case to help with potential nutrient export

Thank you! - Yes we will be adding a skimmer and an apex control. (I think that is what it is called!)

 

[NancyT3]

Here is my newly adjusted list - FOwLR tank: (140 gal)
2 Ocellaris Clownfish, Amphiprion ocellaris. (Already in tank)
2 Pyramid Butterfly fish (In tank)
1 Talbot's Damsel (In tank)
1 Longnose Hawkfish (In tank)
1 Diamond goby (In tank)

to add: (Please provide your advice on this -- order to add and compatibility)
1 Royal gramma, Gramma loreto
1 coral beauty angelfish, Centropyge bispinosa
1 Carpenter Flasher Wrasse Paracheilinus carpenteri or McCosker Flasher Wrasse Paracheilinus mccoskeri
1 Purple Tang (Zebrasoma Xanthurum)
3 blue reef chromis
1 red dragonet
1 Marine Betta (Calloplesiops altivelis)

Thanks
Nancy

 

[OrionN]

I always love to experience the behavior side of fish keeping and like to keep my fish in breeding units if possible.
I don't think it really matters on the order when you add these new fishes.

Royal Gramma: I would consider adding a harem of Royal Gramma at the same time. There are confliction information's on the sexual of Royal Gramma, but my experiences keeping them led me to concluded that they are protogynous hermaphrodites, and live and reproduce as a harem of 1 male and a group of females. The problem with Royal Gramma is that they change sex very quickly and become male as little as a few days when there is no (healthy) male to suppress the change. If you want a harem, you need to order them in group and put them in your aquarium in group.

Dwarf Angels: Consider adding a pair of trio of Dwarf Angles. I keep harems of Flame Back angels and harems of Flame angels. Very rewarding to see the male court and spawn with females at the end of the day.

Flasher wrasses: You need to add multiple of separate species, although same species would be fine too. They will flash each other and display their brilliant colors

I recommend forgo the Reef Chromis. They will not school in your reef

Add a pair of whatever Dragonet you fancy. You need to make sure the aquarium supports the dragonets. Dragonets will be outcompeted by the Dwarf angels and Commet. These fish like/eat larger preys; however, the babies of these preys supply the large portion of Mandarin's food along with smaller species of pods.

Marine betta is a beautiful fish, but you will rarely see it in a large reef.

 

[OrionN]

Consider a pair of Copperband Butterfly instead of other butterfly. I think these are exceptionally beautiful fish

 

[NancyT3]

I always love to experience the behavior side of fish keeping and like to keep my fish in breeding units if possible.
I don't think it really matters on the order when you add these new fishes.

Royal Gramma: I would consider adding a harem of Royal Gramma at the same time. There are confliction information's on the sexual of Royal Gramma, but my experiences keeping them led me to concluded that they are protogynous hermaphrodites, and live and reproduce as a harem of 1 male and a group of females. The problem with Royal Gramma is that they change sex very quickly and become male as little as a few days when there is no (healthy) male to suppress the change. If you want a harem, you need to order them in group and put them in your aquarium in group.

Dwarf Angels: Consider adding a pair of trio of Dwarf Angles. I keep harems of Flame Back angels and harems of Flame angels. Very rewarding to see the male court and spawn with females at the end of the day.

Flasher wrasses: You need to add multiple of separate species, although same species would be fine too. They will flash each other and display their brilliant colors

I recommend forgo the Reef Chromis. They will not school in your reef

Add a pair of whatever Dragonet you fancy. You need to make sure the aquarium supports the dragonets. Dragonets will be outcompeted by the Dwarf angels and Commet. These fish like/eat larger preys; however, the babies of these preys supply the large portion of Mandarin's food along with smaller species of pods.

Marine betta is a beautiful fish, but you will rarely see it in a large reef.

Thank you!