I wish people would stop bashing Marinedepot. I have purchased all of the hardware in my system from them and call them when I need to for advice and they always come through. I really appreciate the fact that they will allow items to be will called if one lives in the area. There have been a few occasions when a member of their staff has talked me down to a lesser priced item when they realized that there was potentially a better way to plumb something or suggested a different brand if they had seen a failure trend in a particular product. I read these forums occasionally, and it digusts me when I read that someone could even have a problem with MarineDepot. They have to be the easiest to deal with company I have ever dealt with. I look forward to many more years of reefkeeping and the excellent service from MarineDepot. See Ya.