As my X would say "I am just going to say this one more time" that is why she is the X, LOL. I went thru 4 different batches of them before these survived, first group bought at a LFS, just got home and a woman I was dateing that work there called me that there system crashed, lost them and other fish, 2nd batch from DFS in Dec, lost them over a 4 week period 1by1, fustrated, Feb ordered 3 more from DFS, same thing, I had 2 huge long tenicle stars which are noctunal and nasty, got them in a clean up crew package, moved in May and got rid of the stars when I had to break down the tank, ordered 3 more Cardinals, last time if they do not make it, no more, doing great!!!!!! First batch sick, and since I never found the bodies or the other 2 purchases, I suspect the stars of doing them in, since the stars are gone and this batch are still here.
Bob