Sump made wrong from lfs. Can I fix it?

[mcgyvr]

Possible, but have not personally seen or heard of it.

It certainly happens.. I'd say I've probably seen 20+ posts here about it in my time on this board..

 

[JTL]

I believe you, I guess I have never cared enough to research it because I only use glass. Even with glass dividers there is a tendency for people to get the thin picture frame glass cut at Lowes. Doesn't take much of a hit to break that stuff.

 

[dt204]

If siliconing is an easy process, why do you recommend he go so far as to get a whole new tank?? That is way overkill. Sure he'd have to work within the parameters of the glass height he has but it should work just fine.

I only suggested a fresh tank because I've cut baffles out before. As easy as it is, it isn't fun lol.

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[d0ughb0y]

maybe you were removing it by scraping the silicone with a blade or knife.
I've seen youtube videos doing it that way. and yes, that is not easy/fun.
if you use a fishing line (or some use guitar string), its like cutting butter with a hot knife. baffle will be out in a few minutes.

 

[JTL]

It is not easy to get the fishing line in between the baffles so that you can use a saw motion to cut them out. Use a razor blade. What really works nice is the blade from a disposable razor. Very thin. I have cut panels from my tank building days out so I know the process too well Regardless how you do it is not difficult.

 

[d0ughb0y]

if there are two baffles, one will be over and one will be under.

removing under baffle is easy, just run the line under and slice away.
removing the over baffle you run the line between the two baffles to go under and out the other baffle, then just position the line and slice away.

yes, it will be hard (actually impossible) to get your hand between the over and under baffle.

 

[JTL]

Let's not over think this. Do whatever works to remove a 6" thin glass baffle.

 

[d0ughb0y]

the picture in post #1, the return section has 3 baffles. over/under/over

make sure to remove the over first (either one), then under, then over if needed. if you remove the center (under) first, then it will be hard to remove the two over baffles using the fishing line method. don't be tempted to remove the center baffle first.

 

[Bulldog39]

Thank you all I have gotten wonderful advice. Think I will wait yo fix it till the cycle ends and I do a water change so it will empty the sump. Two birds one stone. Thought this was a huge problem but now I have a great idea from the support here. So glad people are willing to help since lfs isn't an option anymore.

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[Lsufan]

While the tank is cycling is the perfect time to go ahead & get it done. That way u don't end up rushing & not letting the silicone fully cure before u put the sump back online. Most sumps end up using close to a 1/4" bead of silicone & I would let it cure for atleast 7 Days & preferably 10 days before adding it back to the system.

 

[Shamous113]

It is not easy to get the fishing line in between the baffles so that you can use a saw motion to cut them out. Use a razor blade. What really works nice is the blade from a disposable razor. Very thin. I have cut panels from my tank building days out so I know the process too well Regardless how you do it is not difficult.

I never thought of using braided fishing line, does it work well or wear out quick? I've used a guitar string/piano wire before and it worked well but it can be tough on the hands.

 

[d0ughb0y]

on some tight spots, the fishing line may break. metal wire of course will be better.
tie each end to a pencil, so you are not holding the line directly, as it can hurt your hands/fingers.

 

[heathlindner25]

I would love to know what store did the work.

 

[mcgyvr]

I would love to know what store did the work.

yeah I don't know why they haven't stated it yet..
There is zero reason to protect the store if thats really what they did to a customer....

I've got my pitchfork ready.. Lets find out and and string them up by their motherf.....oops..got carried away.. :lmao:

 

[carlosceo2175]

I would just buy a sump made ,just my 2 cents ,I wouldn't bother with it ,just go back to the Lfs and ask for credit towards a new sump


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[Bulldog39]

My wife bought me this one but it seems small will know when it gets here. Might put it inside this one after I take out the baffles.

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[Lsufan]

That will work as long as the skimmer fits. It’s a basic sock, skimmer, return sump. Space may be a issue but if u plan on having a fuge u can use that as the sump & use the other as a refugium once u take out the baffles.

I’m not sure what placing one inside of the other would accomplish.

 

[Bulldog39]

Seen on YouTube someone use a setup like tjis tjen habe a separate refugium. Any idea how they do that? Is it a return pump from the sump to the refugium tank then out to the display?

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[Lsufan]

They have a few different ways u can do it. I feed mine from my return pump & the fuge gravity drains back to the sump. The fuge is the one on the right. I have a manifold on my return that feeds a couple reactors & the fuge. I attached the sump & fuge with two bulkheads Incase one gets clogged I would have a backup drain.

 

[Bulldog39]

So your return pump splits and goes to the tank and refugium and then the other bulk head is for the overflow of the refugium back to the pump area?

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