Sun Tea Jar Auto Top-Off

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Sun Tea Jar Auto Top-off

(I originally posted this to nano-reef.com, but thought I'd post it here too.)

I promised at the beginning of the summer that I would post a how-to for a cheap gravity-fed auto top-off. Well the summer was busier than expected, and if your lazy like me, that's a death knell to side projects (even easy ones like this). Anyway, here's my how-to and discussion for a sun tea jar auto top-off:

What, How, and Why:
This auto top-off is gravity fed and controlled by pressure (no pumps or float switches). I don't know if there is a good, catchy name for it, but it doesn't seem to be a very popular type of auto top-off, even though it is arguably better than the float switch type for smallish tanks. That's why I thought I'd post plans for a cheap, easy version.

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The way this top-off works is pretty simple. The air inlet tube is placed at the level of the desired water line. The drip tube puts fresh water back into the tank. When the water level reaches the air inlet tube, the water prevents air from entering the container and the dripping stops. In practice, water is actually sucked up the air inlet tube until it rises to a level where the pressures in the container offset each other. When enough tank water evaporates, the water level drops below the air inlet tube, letting air into the container, and top-off starts again.

I've been using a similar top-off on my main system for about a year and have had very few problems. Here are what I see as advantages (over other auto top-offs):

  • Cheap (this one cost me about $10, though fancier versions can use some expensive parts)
  • Very low maintenance
  • Relatively failsafe (no moving parts)
  • Works (maintains your water level automatically)

Specifically, this version that I built was very cheap with (relatively) easy to find parts. (More on this later.)

Parts:
  • Glass sun tea jar with plastic lid ($4 at the grocery store, a seasonal item)
  • 1/4 inch (outer diameter) tubing (standard airline tubing, I got 20 feet of vinyl tubing for less than $2 at Home Depot)
  • 3/8 inch (outer diameter) tubing (about $4 for 25 feet of polyethylene tubing at Home Depot)
  • Number 4 rubber stopper ($1 at a chemistry supply store)
  • Silicone aquarium sealant (a small tube is a few bucks [~ $3])

There are a number of reasons I went with the glass sun tea jar. For this top-off to work the container needs to be very rigid. Besides being cheap, the sun tea jar is rigid, pre-drilled at the bottom, and even comes with it's own bulkhead (sortof). Unfortunately, sun tea jars only seem to be for sale at the beginning of summer every place I've been. I was going to use one a year ago, but I waited too long and they were no longer for sale.


DIY
  1. Saw off the end of spigot so only a hole is exposed.
  2. Insert a piece of 3/8 inch tubing (a couple inches long) into the "bulkhead". I had to shave my tubing down slightly on the end, but then it went in, providing a tight fit. This part will act as an "adapter".
  3. Place the end of the 1/4 inch tubing into the end of the piece of 3/8 inch tubing. Mine fit snuggly. If it doesn't, you can silicone it.
  4. Make a hole in the top of the lid for the 3/8 inch tubing. I actually hand turned a small drill bit and then used scissors to enlarge the hole. Not very fancy, but it worked.
  5. Insert the 3/8 inch tubing into the hole.
  6. Important: the whole container needs to be absolutely air-tight.
    * Put silicone sealant around the 3/8 inch tubing on both sides of the lid.
    * Put sealant on the hinges of the handle (on the inside of the lid).
    * Put sealant on the inside rim of the lid and carefully screw onto jar.
  7. After the sealant cures (at least a day), mount the 3/8 inch tube so that its tip is at the level where water should be. Mounting can be tricky. I suggest doing something with plastic cable ties.
  8. Place the 1/4 inch tube so that it can drip into the tank. A knot in the tubing can restrict the flow to what ever rate you want.
  9. Fill sun tea jar with fresh water, put stopper firmly in fill hole in lid, and let the testing begin.
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    I would suggest letting the top-off run on your "test tank" for at least a week. Any air leaks or blockages in the setup can result in a gradual change in the water level, either too low or too high.

    Considerations
    As I said before, sun tea jars are generally a seasonal item, so it might not be easy to find one if it isn't summer. On my main tank I built a very similar top-off with an acrylic jar/canister that was sold as packaging for pasta. In any event, the container you use needs to be RIGID!

    The reason for the 3/8 inch tubing as the air inlet, is that water will just stay in tube of smaller diameter due to surface tension, not letting the drip restart.

    I have noticed that when the water level drops and air first enters the inlet tube, some tank water is sucked into the container. Over time, this leads to a lot of algae bits and such ending up in the container. If this happens, you should occasionally flush the container with fresh water, which may entail removing the drip tubing.

    A more robust design would probably involve something other than a rubber stopper (my other top-off has a ball-valve), and easily deatchable tubes, for cleaning or replacement. Also you might consider using an IV dripper instead of just airline tubing for better control of the drip rate.

    Note that in my pictures I was using a 1/4 inch tube as the air inlet, but I discovered that the tubing was in fact too narrow.

    Well, I hope someone gets something out of this. Let me know if you have any questions. Feel free to copy these directions and improve upon them. I'm freeing it to the public domain.
 
Pics

Pics

Glass sun tea jar:
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Cut spigot and drip tube assembly (sounds fancy):
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Top of the sun tea jar lid with silicone sealant around the air inlet tube:
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Bottom of the sun tea jar lid with silicone sealant. Notice the sealant around the holes where the handle on the lid is attached:
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Sun tea jar lid with rubber stopper (#4) and air inlet tube:
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Testing:
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Pics (for real... I hope)

Pics (for real... I hope)

Here's the digram of the sun tea jar auto top-off:

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Glass sun tea jar:

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Cut spigot and drip tube assembly (sounds fancy):

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Top of the sun tea jar lid with silicone sealant around the air inlet tube:

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Bottom of the sun tea jar lid with silicone sealant. Notice the sealant around the holes where the handle on the lid is attached:
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Sun tea jar lid with rubber stopper (#4) and air inlet tube:

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Testing:

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Thanks for readding the pics. I want to try this on a little bigger scale. Im trying to think of something pretty (so the wife won't kill me) that holds at least 5 gallons that I can modify. I remember someone useing a vase on a stand next to his tank but i cant find that thread anymore.
 
I find that placing lots of colorful plastic things around my top-off really distracts from what's actually going on ;)

This may not be the easiest design to scale, since large, rigid, airtight containers are hard to find and can be very expensive (I've seen some large pieces of Nalgene polycarbonate lab ware, but I remeber them being around $80, and who knows if they'd work...). If you can get a 5 gallon glass water bottle, that could work, but won't really be pretty. With clever painting, though, you could make it look more presentable and still be able to check the water level. Heck, you could even ask your wife to help you with your aquarium "art project"... yeah, that's it...

By the way, does anyone know a name for this type of top-off? At NR we were proposing a few names including Pressure Regulated Auto Top-Off and Vacuum Regulated Auto Top-Off (PRATO and VRATO).
 
The 5-gallon water cooler jugs are plastic but should be rigid enough to work. They work for pressurised ADTO (Air-Driven) systems, at least.
 
What is the down side of just putting a 5 gallon jug upside down and as the water evaporates it would "glug" like a water cooler? Has anyone done this if not wouldnt it work as well?
 
twobig: I think people refer to that as a cat/dog waterbowl setup.

In theory, the problem is that the salt concentration in the tank and the topoff bottle will come to equilibrium (ie. some of your tank water will diffuse into the bottle), resulting in a lower tank salinity. I don't know of anyone who's actually tried it to see how big the drop would be, but it would probably make your salinity bounce up and down in an undesirable way.

I say try it for a week on a five gallon bucket of saltwater with maybe a one gallon bottle and test the salinity a couple times a day. Then report back to us.
 
My local farm and feed supply has a conical shaped heavy duty polyethylene plastic poulty waterers that are perfect for resivoirs for top offs. They come in 3, 5 and 10 gal capacities. I use a 3 gal cap with air powered top off on my one tank, and have another 3 gal setup a described above on a 16 gal bowfront setup. These waterers have a large screw on with O-ring seal lid, which makes refiling it very easy and also provides lots of space for adding the necessary line to, and there is a smaller outlet at the opposite end on the side which is perfect for the other line thats needed. IIRC I paid about $11 for the 3 gal model.....
 
Since a few people have asked me about this, here's a picture of the container I've been using for the last 2.5 years for this kind of top off (I never set up the little tank I was going to use the sun tea jar topoff with).

The container is an acyrlic canister (about 1 gallon) that originally held some sort of pasta. That's probably the cheapest way to buy one if you can find it. I think it was purchased at Sam's Club.

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Unlike the sun tea jar, I added a bulkhead to the top with a ball valve attached to add water. The drip line and air inlet tube are going through one-holed rubber stoppers, though if I rebuilt it today I might try using some rubber grommets (like little uniseals).

I've had almost no problems with this setup, except for the drip line (an IV line) occasionally getting clogged or staying pinched by the thumb roller that controls the drip rate. But I consider those very minor problems that are easy to fix.

Good luck and post up any pictures of your own versions here.
 
I bought my sun tea jar a little while ago, and just ordered a rubber stopper from ebay. I cant wait to get this project started! Thanks so much for all of the information and the pictures, they really help! :)
 
why not use a salt pail? they are sealed/ air tight to keep the salt fresh...

my question is how do you fill the jar say in the middle of the week when there is still 1/2 full of water? as soon as you break the air seal wont the water dump into the sump?

i cant see if you have a ball valve on the drip line or not..
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10067245#post10067245 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by NanoReefWanabe
why not use a salt pail? they are sealed/ air tight to keep the salt fresh...

I originally tried a 5 gallon bucket, but I couldn't get it to work. I think that the lid was just not rigid enough (it would start to suck in as the pressure built). I'm not saying it couldn't work, but I could never get it to work satisfactorily...


my question is how do you fill the jar say in the middle of the week when there is still 1/2 full of water? as soon as you break the air seal wont the water dump into the sump?

i cant see if you have a ball valve on the drip line or not..

Yes, you need to restrict the drip line so that it will only drip at most.

If you break the pressure, it will refill up to the stop point, but that usually is not very much water, so you are not looking at any appreciable salinity change. I would estimate that my system only adds about 20ml (3/4 oz) to re-establish the vacuum hold, if the water level is already correct. That amount depends on the volume of your air inlet tube.

Good luck.
 
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