Switched Socket Outlet for Tunze Osmolator ?

sayn3ver

New member
I must be dumb but how does this work?

Does this supply normal USA 110v AC power to a pump yet allow it to be controlled via the osmolator?

It was confirmed I could used a standalone litermeter pump with the tunze ATo controller. Just curious if other a/c dosing pumps could be used instead with this outlet?
 
Any pump can be used. The Socket simply turns power on and off when the osmolator calls for water. Dosing pumps can be used as long as they would keep their programming when started. The only other thing to consider is if the doers is very slow and would not for some reason be able to provide the amount of water needed in about 10 minutes as the Osmolator has a self timer that will shut it down to prevent over flow.
 
Yes, it just switches a 115V AC outlet, it does have a limit of 150W, it will blow a fuse if the pump draws more than 150W.
 
It will be fine if all that is needed is that it is turned off and on. Only other thing to keep in mind is if the pump can't prvide enough water to get to the needed level in about 10 minutes the osmolator will time out and need reset.
 
Also, apparently this socket was upgraded to handle 900W earlier this year and I had missed that.
 
So exactly how is this wired?

Normally the tunze pump or other dc pump is hard wired to the osmolator.

How does the switch become controlled via the tunze osmolator unit.

The only reason I am asking is, I have a nano tank and want to run kalk in my topoff. However, the stock pump moves too much fluid. Its an AP24 with sunpod so it will evap some water.

I seem to be in a pickle. I do not have the tank setup and am not sure what pump I am going to need.

So if the osmolator runs for 10min, it needs a manual reset? I assumed that it would run for a max of 10min then automatically shut off....then it will resume normal operation after some fixed amount of time.

My current 20g high temporary holding tank with a mere 65W of CF lighting evaps about ~ 1/4 gallon a day I would estimate (1 liter).

How often does the tunze unit run ie. again, i havent set the tank up and have no prior experience. Does the optical sensor turn on frequently as needed or on a timed interval?

Finally, if I plug the tunze osmolator into a controlled outlet on my apex controller and it turns the osmolator off and on as an additional failsafe (ie. like 6 or 10 times a day for a set amount of time) will this affect the operation of the unit?
 
It isn't hard wired, the pump connects to a European connector, it is connected by screw terminals essentially. You replace the pump with the switched socket 3150.110. Then the same DC signal just switches a relay and turns on a 115V socket.

If you need less flow the simple solution is to install a drip irrigation valve at the end of the top off hose to restrict the flow. The switched socket only comes into play when you need more flow for huge tanks.

After 10 minutes it must be manually reset, the logic is that if it takes more than 10 minutes your tank or plumbing is probably leaking and more water is just adding gasoline to the fire. In 10 minutes it will pump 2-3 gallons, it is so sensitive that it activates with less than a 1/8" water drop so a system would need to be huge for 2-3 gallons to be the required top off, usually it is dispensing on the order of a few tablespoons or a cup of water at most. It does not self reset, only a power interruption can reset it.

The optic sensor turns the pump on as needed, this will depend on evaporation rate. It waits until the water is below the sensor for about 8 seconds to accomodate for waves or disturbances. It overfills as well for about 12 seconds to reduce how often it cycles on. On a small tank, 12 seconds can be enough to trip the safety alarm so that is where the drip valve would come into play.

Switching it would eliminate the 10 minute safety, you reset this everytime you switch. If you just use it as is it has an optic sensor, 10 minute time out and safety float switch. If you install it properly so it cannot siphon and you use a reservoir of a volume that is just sufficient for 1-2 weeks of top off, you can be certain it is very safe and there is nothing you could do to make it better. We pretty much thought of everything.
 
Sorry, when I meant hardwired, i meant the manual attachment of the bare physical wires rather than the use of a plug.

Once again...with the switched outlet..does that plug into an A/C outlet, and then there is an internal relay that is activated by d/c power from the osmolator unit that would normally drive the D/C operated pump?

Once again, if I have the osmolator unit on a controlled outlet and it is switched off for redundancy will this cause any issues with the Osmolator unit itself?
(say I only want the osmolator topping off and powered 10 times a day and it is powered off when not in use and or I want to be able to stop the top off ***toping off with limewater*** using the redundant safety of ph control)

I thought about the irrigation valve but a) can and may be inconsistent in its output b) seems like more of a chance of becoming a clog c)the tunze pump is not meant to be used in saturated kalkwater....
 
Imagine a box with a male socket on one side and female on the other, it plugs into the wall you pump plugs into it. It has a two wire lead that connects where the osmo pump is connected, the low voltage signal flips a relay in the socket.

By switching it off you reset the 10 minute safety, so yes, you do affect the operation, you defeat this safety. If your tank was leaking, every time it switched the osmolator could run a full 10 minutes.

Kalkwasser will clog the valve, but it is the best option, it will clog the tubing too and it will clog and jam any pump you choose to use given time, you will just need to add this to your maintenance routine, you are overcomplicating it. The osmolator would dose so little at a time in normal use there is no need for any timing and dosing kalk in very small increments all day rather than in larger increments 10 times per day would be safer.
 
Maybe i am over thinking this. haha.:beer:

i was just concerned about using the stock pump **in** the solution vs the pump feeding a reactor as the tunze manual says it shortens the life of the pump.

Maybe I will run it with the stock pump and valve and see how it works/how long it works and go from there.

Thanks.
 
The pump typically lasts 2-3 years in RO water and 6-24 months in kalk. The life largely depends on if the pump sits in a slurry of power or is only in a relatively clear liquid. A dispenser eliminates this risk and I know our pump can run a smaller MRC, Geo or our 5074 kalk dispenser with no issues.
 
Back
Top