Swoop's 300g Deep Dimension Build

Quick update. Working on getting the retrofit kits installed in the canopy. Two of my IceCap Ballasts were missing the aluminum heat sinks so I'm waiting on those.

Once I get it finished I'll post some pics.

Drained the tank last night, gonna start refilling again with some new RO/DI water. I think my base rock still had alot of lose particulate on it even though I hosed it real well before placing in the tank and the water ended up kindy cloudy and dirty. Anyway decided to use the tank like a giant washing machine for the last 3 days. Had the Vortechs humming and some filter pads in the sump to try to capture the loose particulate that was coming off the rocks. With that finished I will start refilling the tank today and once its full this time then I will be adding salt.

Some pic updates to come soon.
 
Just talked with Jeremy at Premium Aquatics, he said newer production runs of the IceCap Ballasts don't come with heatsinks. So since IceCap says its okay to mount without heatsinks then thats what I will do.
 
Just to let you know......I have 4- 80w bulbs on two of my IC-660's with no issue. The ballast barely even gets warm. They can run 4-5ft bulbs with no problem. They just won't run over 16ft of VHO lighting....the resistance is different and it won't fire them.
 
Okay the hood is done. Here are some pics. I'm still waiting on some bulbs hence why I don't have all the spaces filled. You can also see my 6 sets of Digital Aquatics Moonlight Pods. The pods are mounted so that the light from them won't be blocked by the T5 reflectors.

Enjoy

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Looks good. Could have saved some money though and only bought 2 IC660's instead of 4 IC430's. I have 8 T5's on my tanks right now and plan on upgrading to 12 or 16 T5's when I setup my new tank.
 
Are you planing on covering the ballasts against moisture?

I've got glass tops on the tank so those combined with the fans and the back and top openings shouldn't allow any moisture to condense on the ballasts. They are also about 10 or so inches above the water line.

I just didn't have another good place to mount them. Certainly didn't want them mounted to the side of the stand. The back of the stand was out of the question. I don't have a separate fish room, so really inside the canopy was my only good option.
 
Swoop....looks great and I like the build. Few questions.

1. Is that canopy part of the set or custom? If part of the Marineland set did the fan holes come precut or did you have to cut them?

2. Was the retrofit kit alot cheaper than the Aquacitinics you were going to purchase?

Can't wait to see the lights on the full tank!

Cheers!
 
The canopy is part of the Marineland set. I used my Dremel tool to cut the openings for the fans.

Again just like the stand, they are overpriced for what you get. I knew that going in though. If you have the time and tools and ability and aren't worried about a lifetime tank warranty then you can build a better stand and canopy for a whole lot less money. I have the tools and skills just didn't really have the time so I went with the overpriced factory option.

Yes, the retro kit was cheaper than the Aquactinics. About 900 bucks for 2 4 bulb sets and that included the price of bulbs. The Aquactinics was around 1000 without bulbs.

I'm glad some people earlier in this thread suggested 5ft bulbs and I am very glad I went with a retro kit. For one thing I don't need to worry about moving a giant fixture out of the way everytime I need to get my hands in the tank. Another side benefit of the retro kit is that since I have glass tops it will be alot easier to clean them and keep them free of salt creep since again, I don't have to move a giant fixture out of the way.
 
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The canopy is part of the Marineland set. I used my Dremel tool to cut the openings for the fans.

Again just like the stand, they are overpriced for what you get. I knew that going in though. If you have the time and tools and ability and aren't worried about a lifetime tank warranty then you can build a better stand and canopy for a whole lot less money. I have the tools and skills just didn't really have the time so I went with the overpriced factory option.

Yes, the retro kit was cheaper than the Aquactinics. About 900 bucks for 2 4 bulb sets and that included the price of bulbs. The Aquactinics was around 1000 without bulbs.

I'm glad some people earlier in this thread suggested 5ft bulbs and I am very glad I went with a retro kit. For one thing I don't need to worry about moving a giant fixture out of the way everytime I need to get my hands in the tank. Another side benefit of the retro kit is that since I have glass tops it will be alot easier to clean them and keep them free of salt creep since again, I don't have to move a giant fixture out of the way.

Thanks Swoop and good luck. I am wondering if you can go without the glass tops or do you run the risk of fish and water hitting the bulbs. I think the glass tops would filter alot of light away from the corals, no?
 
Not to mention the oxygen exchange and heat transfer.

what about having placed the ballasts on top of the canopy?
 
Looks great, I am also worried about the oxygen exchange and heat transfer. With an IC ballast powering the bulbs they will run hotter than normal too much heat means less life time of the bulbs.
I would suggest asking Grim about how to the bulbs properly keep them cool. The 2 fans alone worried me
 
Turkey Day update.

Water is at 1.025 SG. Hood is on and lights were tested with a few stand in bulbs. Ran with lights and fans running for about 3 hours. Very very cool under the canopy. Ballasts seem fine and as of right now 2, 4 inch fans, the slots in the top of the canopy and the back being open seems fine for cooling of the lights. Honestly the lights don't even seem to run that hot. Now after a 10 hour run things may be different but I can't cross that bridge till I get to it.

After I got the SG to 1.025 and let it run for awhile to confirm that the salt was mixed good throughout I went ahead and added my 360 lbs of Carbisea Ocean Direct Live Sand. Can you say giant cloud storm. Only now am I starting to spot some rock. Was wondering if the sand disolved all my rock ;) Is 1.025 okay for a reef tank. I have a book that says 1.024, but I have also seen and read about people running at 1.026 or 1.027.

I was running the Vortechs and the return pump but after about an hour I decided perhaps I should shut everything down and try to get the storm to settle. Starting to see some progress.

As for the glass tops, one thing I did a little different was I separated all the panes from those plastic hinge things. I'm not using the hinges as it is easier to just remove the individual panes if I need to and the front pane is very easy to tilt up for feedings. Not using the hinges does several things for me. One is it makes it alot easier to clean the individual panes, two it removes shadow lines from inside the tank since the black plastic hinges are gone, and three, the gaps left where the hinges were at provides for nice areas for gasses to escape.

I've read about reefers getting all worked up about gas exchange at the surface level before and I find it a little odd, your skimmer is pumping so much more oxygen into your water column than you will ever get from gas exchange at the surface. However I am all for breaking the surface tension using return nozzles and circ pumps however it's not to introduce Oxygen as much as it is to allow other gases to escape. Overflows also do a good job of breaking surface tension.

Back to the fans real quick. Each fan at idle speed circulates 50 to 60 cfm of air, at mid speed 75 to 85 cfm, and at full bore, 90 to 102 cfm. Multiply that times 2 and then consider that the canopy isn't completely enclosed and you might see then why I think I should be okay. Great thing I like about these IceCap fans is the heat sensor on them, depending on the temp at the sensor the fans throttle up or down. And in a worst case scenario I can easily add two more fans with the canopy still on the tank.

Caribsea claims that with their OceanDirect sand I should see little if any cycle. I find that hard to believe. Hitting my LFS tomorrow to grab a few small pieces of his live rock to help seed my base rock. Wife and son want me to get a few hardy fish tomorrow as well. I'm not sure yet if I trust Caribsea enough to use a couple fish as guiena pigs regarding not having a cycle. Afterall they also claimed that their clarifier stuff that comes with the Live Sand would cause the dust storm to settle fast. Hahaha, lies.

But I am considering it, their food and poop should help with a cycle anyway and with two fish in all that water I think they can handle it.

Looking forward to getting some algae in the tank, why? Cause I love cleanup crews and watching them work. I could stare are emerald and hermit crabs for hours. But I don't want too much algae ;) Just enough to keep the cleanup crew fat and happy. I know I know wishfull thinking.

Anyway thats about all for my Turkey Day update. As soon as the dust storm settles I'll get some pics. Light in the tank won't look that great since I am using some stand in bulbs, too much white. About a 3 to 4 inch deep sand bed along the glass ATM, but I'm hoping to bring that down some once I can see where sand isn't so I can move some there. I'll also take some out if I have to, I wanted about 2 ot 3 inches. Though honestly the 4 inch areas don't look bad at all.
 
Cycle with raw shrimp. Then you dont have to tear the tank apart to get out the fish you didnt really want in the first place.
 
Looks great so far! You can run a reef at 1.026 , It's more natural and your skimmer will bubble better. My only suggestion would be to move the ballasts and all the wire nuts you can to the top of the canopy so they're outside the tank. Even though you have the tank covered and have fans It just makes me cringe seeing all that electrical stuff under the hood. Too many electrical fires in this hobby. Put it up top and make a lip of moulding to go around the top of the canopy to hide it. Better safe than sorry. Just my thoughts. If you didn't get your skimmer yet, Someone is selling a deltec 702 on njreefers, great skimmer
 
Looks great so far! You can run a reef at 1.026 , It's more natural and your skimmer will bubble better. My only suggestion would be to move the ballasts and all the wire nuts you can to the top of the canopy so they're outside the tank. Even though you have the tank covered and have fans It just makes me cringe seeing all that electrical stuff under the hood. Too many electrical fires in this hobby. Put it up top and make a lip of moulding to go around the top of the canopy to hide it. Better safe than sorry. Just my thoughts. If you didn't get your skimmer yet, Someone is selling a deltec 702 on njreefers, great skimmer


Well didn't make it to the LFS and considering the tank hasen't cleared yet then it was for the best.

Regarding the ballasts being inside the canopy. First I will say that the wire nuts connecting the ballasts to the power cords are the water proof style connectors with silicone inside the wire nut and coming out of the wire nut.

Second, why the concern about the ballasts being inside the canopy? Why is it bad but yet so many all in one fixtures have the ballasts built into the fixture that you set directly on the tank. Let me see if I understand this, we put electrical shorts (heaters) in our water, electrical pumps of all kinds in our water, have non water proof connections in our end caps but its not a good idea to have ballasts in the canopy even if they are 8 inches above the waterline, protected by glass tops on the tank and inside a very well ventilated hood?

Am I missing something? Could someone shed some light on why it's not okay other than "just because".
 
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