swashbuckler
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NO t-6's arent all that great- the colors of the t-8's and t-12's are far superior; their blue 03 bulb looks like a standard NO actinic but has less punch than a t-8, the pro 03 is a hideous pink. nuff said.
T6 Lighting for Aquariums
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The Grim Reefer
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Pink actinic? The VHO's I got are blue. They have a pink plant grow lamp.
swashbuckler
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you prob got the "blue 03" model- the "pro 03" is very pink. at least what ive seen in person, this is NO mind you, looks very similiar to the plant grow lamp, but not as bright.
The Grim Reefer
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The pro 03 might be more pink because they add someUV to the output, supposed to be good for the critters.
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Oooppps!
Make that Infrared light. I have a graph for the pro and there is a wide but low band of output in the upper range of the red spectrum.
Make that Infrared light. I have a graph for the pro and there is a wide but low band of output in the upper range of the red spectrum.
I was just trying to get an idea of which specific lenghts and HO or VHO's were in sent out for testing.
24in. ,30in.,36in, 48in HO & VHO interest me--- heat production and highest output for given size and power consumption. I have several ideas for uses-single & double row reflectors---not sure how the light distribution will look under each, whether or not I want to go with a single tube, two them of course allows you to use different spectrums to blend light. One thing I find confusing is the statement that a T6 would 'out perform' at T5 of same lenght and same wattage. T5's are some of the most efficient fluros as far as lumens/watt. I doubt a T6 is over 100lm/w which lower wattage T5 hit. I'd like to see some test data that would support the "out perform T-5 by a mile" contention. Or maybe we are just not understanding English meaning of Yu L Li?
What happened to those pictures of his; I live near to Yu L Li apparently, would be nice to see all of these tubes side by side? Now I want to figure out which ballasts to drive these with, taking into consideration of number of things. But I'm still waiting on Yu L Li to answer, as he's the one with the experience on these.
Yes he posted a phone number for QA, but they don't have a website, and Big Al's only sells NO's. Color of NO's maybe be quite different than HO & VHO, especially if the tubes are of different construction/design/ and or from a different manufacturer. I suppose I could call QA, but they only distribute these, and you may not get completely accurate information from them.
NO's I'm not so interested in at present. But he said he could get any color, lenght, in HO & VHO.
From the other thread I should have linked back to:
T5 lights, how long to they last and what's the equivalent watts produced ?
Maybe someone with Yu L Li's e-mail can ask for a response here, since I'm getting to reply to my PM.
I'm getting confused, GR has both NO, HO, &VHO to test? And they are all roughly of same color from same lenght NO, to HO, to VHO; or are there noticeable differences?
"11K's and the other 2 are a mixed bulb, if I rememeber right, something like an actinic +." So are these the same designations for the NO's??? And even if they are the same designation, do the look the same color spectrums as the NO's ...roughtly???
24in. ,30in.,36in, 48in HO & VHO interest me--- heat production and highest output for given size and power consumption. I have several ideas for uses-single & double row reflectors---not sure how the light distribution will look under each, whether or not I want to go with a single tube, two them of course allows you to use different spectrums to blend light. One thing I find confusing is the statement that a T6 would 'out perform' at T5 of same lenght and same wattage. T5's are some of the most efficient fluros as far as lumens/watt. I doubt a T6 is over 100lm/w which lower wattage T5 hit. I'd like to see some test data that would support the "out perform T-5 by a mile" contention. Or maybe we are just not understanding English meaning of Yu L Li?
What happened to those pictures of his; I live near to Yu L Li apparently, would be nice to see all of these tubes side by side? Now I want to figure out which ballasts to drive these with, taking into consideration of number of things. But I'm still waiting on Yu L Li to answer, as he's the one with the experience on these.
Yes he posted a phone number for QA, but they don't have a website, and Big Al's only sells NO's. Color of NO's maybe be quite different than HO & VHO, especially if the tubes are of different construction/design/ and or from a different manufacturer. I suppose I could call QA, but they only distribute these, and you may not get completely accurate information from them.
NO's I'm not so interested in at present. But he said he could get any color, lenght, in HO & VHO.
From the other thread I should have linked back to:
T5 lights, how long to they last and what's the equivalent watts produced ?
Yu L LI said:
Maybe someone with Yu L Li's e-mail can ask for a response here, since I'm getting to reply to my PM.
I'm getting confused, GR has both NO, HO, &VHO to test? And they are all roughly of same color from same lenght NO, to HO, to VHO; or are there noticeable differences?
"11K's and the other 2 are a mixed bulb, if I rememeber right, something like an actinic +." So are these the same designations for the NO's??? And even if they are the same designation, do the look the same color spectrums as the NO's ...roughtly???
swashbuckler
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The Grim Reefer said:
yep- spread out from 410 to 440nm or something like that- i dont even know why they came out with this bulb-
the blue 03 is so much better in every way- if the color remains the same with the HO and VHO variants- it could compete with a URI possibly- may i emphasize "possibly"
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The lamp is supposed to be good for fish and corals. Something todo with calcium in bones and coral skelatons. The VHO blues look tasty. I have a 105 watt T5 actinic that looks pretty nice too. Same Co. made both lamps so hopefully goof things are coming for the small diameter lamps.
swashbuckler said:
blue 03 is better in every way? How so, other than not being too pink for your preferences?
The Grim Reefer said:
"VHO blues look tasty" - T12, no not that; or supposedly to be available through Quantum Aquatics, a T6 VHO, correct? And the same company that made that Quantum Aquatics VHO T6, has also made the 105w T5 actinic, was that a typo meant to read T6? That's a VHO 105w T5 then, of what length- 36in or 48in???Ah well, if someone contacted Yu L Li for me, Thank you. I just got some PM's from him. Will update if I find anything interesting.
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The tasty blue VHO I am refering to is a T6. The 105 watt lamp is a 72" T5.
The 72" VHO T6 lamps are 165 watts.
The 72" VHO T6 lamps are 165 watts.
Roland Jacques
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all this good t-6 info but i cant find any "VHO" t-6 bulbs anywhere
pjf
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Dimming T6 HO Controller
Dimming T6 HO Controller
I’m not sure if dimmable T6’s are marketed as VHO. In any case, you can take a 55-watt T6 HO and drive it to different output levels with a 55-watt dimming ballast and a 55-watt dimming controller. All three components can be found on www.naturallighting.com. Just search for "dimming."
I’ve just purchased two 55-watt T6 HO lamps from Natural Lighting but I’ll just be using regular on-off T5HO ballasts to drive them.
Dimming T6 HO Controller
I’m not sure if dimmable T6’s are marketed as VHO. In any case, you can take a 55-watt T6 HO and drive it to different output levels with a 55-watt dimming ballast and a 55-watt dimming controller. All three components can be found on www.naturallighting.com. Just search for "dimming."
I’ve just purchased two 55-watt T6 HO lamps from Natural Lighting but I’ll just be using regular on-off T5HO ballasts to drive them.
Roland Jacques
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iv'e been reading of VHO t-6 bulbs 110 watts and higher. so i dont think they were talking about dimming ballast on a 55 watt bulb. i have looked at that site a bit no luck with refector or VHO t-6.
i thought they were maybe just over driving Xs2 a 55 watt lamp with a regular HO ballast. (wiring 2 outputs into 1 bulb) but that does not seem to be the case ether. ill keep looking. i now have 9 tanks to put lighting on with limmited space for bulbs.
i thought they were maybe just over driving Xs2 a 55 watt lamp with a regular HO ballast. (wiring 2 outputs into 1 bulb) but that does not seem to be the case ether. ill keep looking. i now have 9 tanks to put lighting on with limmited space for bulbs.
Roland Jacques
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Yeah, you can have your LFS order the VHO T-6 from All Seas Marine. But cant find what colors are alvailable, brand name, and no feed back on them.
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I had an e-mail telling what lamps they had but I must have deleted it.
I know they have the Super Blue which is about the same as a Blue plus, a 10K daylight, I have those. The others going by memory were 6500K, 8800K, 10K w/UVA or B, a 50/50 12000K.
If you ar lighting a lot of tanks and starting out from scratch T5's are the best bet. I think I still hav a couple of 55 watt T6's left, I'll have to see how well they overdrive.
I know they have the Super Blue which is about the same as a Blue plus, a 10K daylight, I have those. The others going by memory were 6500K, 8800K, 10K w/UVA or B, a 50/50 12000K.
If you ar lighting a lot of tanks and starting out from scratch T5's are the best bet. I think I still hav a couple of 55 watt T6's left, I'll have to see how well they overdrive.
got some catfish t6 lamps for the kick of it
got some catfish t6 lamps for the kick of it
ok i have 265 watts of pc lighting and cant stand it. Wanted to go to t5 and decieded to use the pc along with a set of t5 bulbs to get me at about 373 watts of pc on a 55 gallon long tank. Then i figured cost of ballast, bulbs, and making my own fixture or buying a complete setup. Then i came across t6 fixture from catfish for half the price and no work
so i just ordered them. heres the link catfish website guess how much ? $76.95 shipped to my door. i went with the 12k lights and one atnic to supplement my pc lights that i hate. figured that both together i might be able to grow something worth while instead of aquatic weeds . dont get me wrong i can grow fish, some polyps, coraline algae, and some plants that came on my live rock. anything other than that dies. so hopefully this helps out if not they all go to the thrash can and time to save for a mh setup. Figure about a week and i will post an update along with some pics. What the heck is the pink light for?
got some catfish t6 lamps for the kick of it
ok i have 265 watts of pc lighting and cant stand it. Wanted to go to t5 and decieded to use the pc along with a set of t5 bulbs to get me at about 373 watts of pc on a 55 gallon long tank. Then i figured cost of ballast, bulbs, and making my own fixture or buying a complete setup. Then i came across t6 fixture from catfish for half the price and no work
so i just ordered them. heres the link catfish website guess how much ? $76.95 shipped to my door. i went with the 12k lights and one atnic to supplement my pc lights that i hate. figured that both together i might be able to grow something worth while instead of aquatic weeds . dont get me wrong i can grow fish, some polyps, coraline algae, and some plants that came on my live rock. anything other than that dies. so hopefully this helps out if not they all go to the thrash can and time to save for a mh setup. Figure about a week and i will post an update along with some pics. What the heck is the pink light for?Roland Jacques
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tquick
The price is low enough thats for sure. but the reflector is not a good one.
t-6 are limited as to selction of lamps. that catfish does not seem to even sell the lmps seperate yet. some people use 3000k lamp to complment the reds... colors in the tank and has some good PAR also. not sure if that pink is the same or not. i think the pink one is mainly for growth PAR.
The price is low enough thats for sure. but the reflector is not a good one.
t-6 are limited as to selction of lamps. that catfish does not seem to even sell the lmps seperate yet. some people use 3000k lamp to complment the reds... colors in the tank and has some good PAR also. not sure if that pink is the same or not. i think the pink one is mainly for growth PAR.
pjf
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Greater Potential Market for T6
Greater Potential Market for T6
Greater Potential Market for T6
Commercially, there is a large market for T8 and T12 lighting. T6 lamps can easily replace this market because it is "plug compatible." Other than being first to market, is there anything that makes one design superior to the other?
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