Tank raised Diver's Den Tang

[Robka]

I wanted to know if anyone has purchased a tank raised tang from Diver's Den? I have had such a hard time getting a Tang to make it through the QT time in my 40 gal that I was wondering how much of a risk would it be to put it directly into my display tank (knowing that this is a tank raised yellow eye kole tang & has gone through their top of the line QT regimen). My mains system is 125g & only has 4 two bar chromis and a royal gramma. My display tank has been up and running for almost two years and has plenty of live rock to feed off of. I know there is always a risk, but I really want this fish to live?

Thanks,

Robka

 

[snorvich]

In my opinion, very little risk with DD fish going directly into a display.

 

[AuroraDrvr]

In my opinion, very little risk with DD fish going directly into a display.

There is no doubt that LA/DD's fish are some of the best. But to say there is "very little risk" is a stretch. There are many other factors aside from disease, as you know, that warrant a QT session. A 40G is a more than sufficient QT for a Tang.

Robka, I am assuming your are talking about the SA Tank Raised Blue tangs that LA/DD offers. In which case, a 40G is even more sufficient, as they are usually in the 1.5"-3" range.

 

[LisaD]

If you aren't already, make the QT a stable environment with live rock, skimmer, macroalgae (but bare bottom). Only remove this if you have to treat. Basically, use the QT for isolation, but minimize stress. If you need to treat, rock, filtration, macro can be removed and daily partial water changes initiated. I prefer NOT to treat in QT unless necessary if I am getting fish from one of the more reliable sources.

 

[Robka]

There is no doubt that LA/DD's fish are some of the best. But to say there is "very little risk" is a stretch. There are many other factors aside from disease, as you know, that warrant a QT session. A 40G is a more than sufficient QT for a Tang.

Robka, I am assuming your are talking about the SA Tank Raised Blue tangs that LA/DD offers. In which case, a 40G is even more sufficient, as they are usually in the 1.5"-3" range.

I guess I was worried about lack of natural food source as my QT tank is bare bottom with PVC pipes as cover. My last QT fish died of unknown disease and I had to completely break down the tank sterilized with vinegar and let dry in sun for three days and then put back together.. since I only have a few common fish in my display tank, I thought the Tang would have a better chance of survival in the display tank.

Thanks for all the input guys

 

[Robka]

P.S. AuroraDrvr yes it is a SA Tank raised Yellow eye kole tang 2 3/4"

Thanks again

 

[Drjusc00]

I have an Achilles tang from DD and put it in direct. He is doing great and is eating everything I place in the tank. No disease or problems. You pay good money for DD fish since they do the QT for you.

 

[Loganeri]

Always a risk but I've added kole directly to tank before without problem. The other inhabitants are not aggressive so that's a good thing as well. Good luck.

 

[snorvich]

BY the way, I said "little risk" not "no risk". There is more risk of a fish dieing due to improper quarantine than one thinks. If QT, is done properly, it is a great concept, but if done improperly, as many do, it is a poor one.

 

[Jacob D]

Unless DD starts providing individual reports with each fish regarding the duration of QT and medications administered there is no reason to think they "do the QT for you". They ensure that the fish has been QT'd and in seemingly good health to their standards, which are of course high, but without any history you have no idea of what disease or parasites the fish may be carrying. I frequently buy from DD and have suffered very few losses and have received some great fish but I don't think anyone should believe that buying DD fish eliminate to QT (and I doubt anyone at LA/DD would encourage it).

If the history of the fish is unknown then the risks are no different than adding any other fish to you tank. If I was going to gamble by not QT'ing I would rather gamble with a fish from DD that's at least been observed for a couple of weeks.

By the way, In the past I have also had problems with tangs in QT, not a great personal track record for me. I have one of the DD tank raised blue tangs. I did QT him because he was so small and tank raised I thought he would be fine in QT, and was. The Kole may be a different story though.

 

[readmeli]

We ALWAYS recommend QT'ing..... ALWAYS. DD or not. Up to personal preference though, but we by no means say you don't need to QT.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/PIC/article.cfm?aid=205

http://www.dfs-pet-blog.com/2009/08/quarantine-aquariums-more-than-just-disease-prevention/ (Post by Kevin Kohen)

Good luck with your new fish!

 

[Robka]

good discussion. Thanks for all the input.

 

[lilalove]

I had a Naso in QT for 2 weeks. It was doing terrible, not eating, breathing rapidly, just not adjusting well. I had live rock in there and was doing daily water changes, no ammonia, no nitrite, no nitrate. I made the decision to move him into my display...just didn't seem like it would survive in the QT. Best decision ever. Still took him a couple of months to feel completely comfortable, though. I think he would've for sure been a goner in the QT if I had waited the 4-6 weeks. Some tang species are more delicate than others. Koles eat a lot of detritus, which in a BB QT can be hard to find. It's a hard choice since tangs are known to be quite susceptible to ick. Good luck with your fish.

 

[Jacob D]

...I made the decision to move him into my display...just didn't seem like it would survive in the QT. Best decision ever....

I'm not making an attempt to flame you, but in retrospect that was a bad decision with a lucky outcome, it could have easily been "worst decision ever". Putting an ailing fish into your display tank is a very risky move and contradictory to the entire reason to QT in the first place. Anyone considering doing this should think it through.

I have made this same mistake and didn't realize how terribly illogical it was (at the time) to risk all of my fish in hopes that one would be saved.

 

[sreefs]

DD fish are in very good health IMO but I always Qt them for 4 to 8 weeks. They usually are eating the next day after shipping, but this gives them time to settle in. I then place them in an acclimation box in the display and release the next day or so. This has worked great for me.
Pat

 

[lilalove]

I'm not making an attempt to flame you, but in retrospect that was a bad decision with a lucky outcome, it could have easily been "worst decision ever". Putting an ailing fish into your display tank is a very risky move and contradictory to the entire reason to QT in the first place. Anyone considering doing this should think it through.

I have made this same mistake and didn't realize how terribly illogical it was (at the time) to risk all of my fish in hopes that one would be saved.

True...I just wanted to mention how each situation is different. I had treated my Naso with Quinine as a preventative. He was just not comfortable in the 40 gallon QT, which is why I moved him. Plus my display had a lot of dictyota for him to eat, since at the time he wasn't taking anything prepared. I felt it was the best choice, and sure I gambled and got lucky. But unless you quarantine EVERYTHING you ever put into your tank, the gamble is always there.