hiero4life
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Any reason PBT? I think it would look awesome but, may not be possible at home. Good luck even if you don't do it you sill can have a mega size tank.
Tank size for a powder BROWN school
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xtm
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Definitely around 15 FT tank or more. LONG tank.
I'm looking at my 6 ft display and can't imagine having 3 PBT's in it....
Here in RC, when you post "cool new ideas", "innovations", "breakthroughs", you'd have to expect some really harsh putdowns. Don't let this get in your path. People like you who push the envelope in this hobby are rare, so I say go ahead and do it. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
I'm looking at my 6 ft display and can't imagine having 3 PBT's in it....
Here in RC, when you post "cool new ideas", "innovations", "breakthroughs", you'd have to expect some really harsh putdowns. Don't let this get in your path. People like you who push the envelope in this hobby are rare, so I say go ahead and do it. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
Uh oh - this is my pet peeve....:strooper: It's pushed my button and even got me using emoticons I don't understand the meaning of! :lol:
While it is a free country and normal people should usually assume that dictionary definitions would suffice in normal conversation...this does not always apply here. When using words to describe scientific or even pseudoscientific events/things the dictionary is of limited use.
And pleeeeeeeeease... don't ask me whether I think anemones may in some circumstances be referred to as one of the "corals" :wildone: :reading: :furious: :hammer:
Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
But if anyone wants to argue over whether clownfish can be called damsels, I am up for it :lol:
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On the contrary, people who "push the envelope" in this hobby are a dime a dozen, which is why so many elegance corals, moorish idols and powder blue tangs (to name a few species) suffer slow deaths in our tanks. It is also the reason tangs in 55 gallon tanks is the rule rather than the exception. When people comment on these husbandry practices, they are not "putdowns". Rather it is an attempt by more knowledgeable aquarists to encourage others to not attempt poor husbandry in the guise of "experimentation".
zuzecawi
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Bravo, BrianD.
While pipe dreaming is fun, and researching an idea is commendable, there does come a point where you have to admit that the premise you're working under is flawed. If you really want to experience shoaling tangs (and yes, there IS a difference between shoaling and schooling) in a captive situation, you should consider a degree in marine biology and a job at an actual aquarium facility. The wealth involved in both creating and maintaining a system of the size that you'd have to consider for this pet project is beyond what most people are going to even have the option of considering for private purposes. If you for some reason are in that top 1% and you're truly interested in witnessing this type of natural animal behavior, perhaps you should consider lending that money instead towards research or conservation. It seems a dreadful squandering to me, to even consider enacting such a system in your own home, which most likely will fail in its intended effects, when that same funding could accomplish so much good if used to endorse say, a public aquarium, or a marine conservation organization.
Just my .02 cents.
While pipe dreaming is fun, and researching an idea is commendable, there does come a point where you have to admit that the premise you're working under is flawed. If you really want to experience shoaling tangs (and yes, there IS a difference between shoaling and schooling) in a captive situation, you should consider a degree in marine biology and a job at an actual aquarium facility. The wealth involved in both creating and maintaining a system of the size that you'd have to consider for this pet project is beyond what most people are going to even have the option of considering for private purposes. If you for some reason are in that top 1% and you're truly interested in witnessing this type of natural animal behavior, perhaps you should consider lending that money instead towards research or conservation. It seems a dreadful squandering to me, to even consider enacting such a system in your own home, which most likely will fail in its intended effects, when that same funding could accomplish so much good if used to endorse say, a public aquarium, or a marine conservation organization.
Just my .02 cents.
Kudos to both of you, zuzecawi and BrianD for well said statements. Getting a fish to eat and providing proper nutrition are not the same thing (such as Moorish Idols). When we create artificial environments for animals we are under a moral obligation to create an environment where that animal can thrive rather than waste away. Pushing the envelope is great if you KNOW what you are doing and not simply doing so because it is financially expedient.
Serioussnaps
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I have 4 clown surgeons in my 55 G.....they are all rotting as we speak
garvin90
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I completely agree with what you guys have been saying so far.
I have considered a degree and/or a job at our local zoo. One of the things that fascinates me is the coral spawning in nature. I wont beable to attend MACNA this year but hopefully I can catch a recording of it since Steven Pro was informing that the coral spawns is a topic they will be covering.
Anyway though back to the topic this thread was started about. Since these surgeons are shoalers and not schoolers, Im not even sure what an appropriate tank size would be to allow them their individual space when not formed as a group. Especially since they are fast swimmers and consider large(several yards or more from what im reading) areas their territories. This i believe is one of those few truly bad ideas for experimentation. Some ideas are bad due to inexperience and some are bad due to finances. This falls into that last "zoo only" area i believe.
I have considered a degree and/or a job at our local zoo. One of the things that fascinates me is the coral spawning in nature. I wont beable to attend MACNA this year but hopefully I can catch a recording of it since Steven Pro was informing that the coral spawns is a topic they will be covering.
Anyway though back to the topic this thread was started about. Since these surgeons are shoalers and not schoolers, Im not even sure what an appropriate tank size would be to allow them their individual space when not formed as a group. Especially since they are fast swimmers and consider large(several yards or more from what im reading) areas their territories. This i believe is one of those few truly bad ideas for experimentation. Some ideas are bad due to inexperience and some are bad due to finances. This falls into that last "zoo only" area i believe.
