TBS for over a year
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NoobieNemo
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well, it's called sarcasm...I don't know if you are in high school, or even a doctor, but your mentality, with all due respect, is in kindergarten! It's pretty freakin' apparent that my TBS rock isn't from Mars (hence, the joke has begun), and last time I checked, rocks did not grow back together to be solid(hence the end of the joke!) you wanted a pic, I gave you a pic of a rock from TBS and I'm gonna say, it's pretty safe to say, that that rock will look the same a year from now...If you are so concerned with getting porous rock, please call Richard and I'm sure he will go to the keys and get you all porous rock, just for you 
!!!! He's that cool!
!!!! He's that cool!
NoobieNemo
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and no, the porous rock he gets you from the keys, will not reshape itself one year from then and then be non porous!
Abynum1
Premium Member
Dude do you even understand that my statement was directed to those posts that I have read from other people and not yours? I was agreeing with you. and whats w/the personal attacks? (Talk about kindergarten,geez) Either way it's all irrelevent as I was asking for opinions and pics from the people who have had it for over a year. Not from someone who's had it a month and is still cycling.
delta
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it doesn t loose it pours it is basically the same make up as any other LR. But TBS is coral skeletons grown over coral skeletons not just a single coral skeleton.
in a year after having TBS most will be stocking there tanks not concetrating on discribing the state of their LR. I can assure you all LR has dense and pourous pieces some tend to have more or less.
I would do some more studying it can not loose it pourosity as for the life if you don't care for it, it will die an some things will feed of the life on the rock they do in the wild and will in your tank.
But this forum is pretty remote try taking it to the main forum (reef discussion)and ask for 1 year plus TBS LR tank owner only you should hopefully get a bigger crowd of TBS owners
Good luck
in a year after having TBS most will be stocking there tanks not concetrating on discribing the state of their LR. I can assure you all LR has dense and pourous pieces some tend to have more or less.
I would do some more studying it can not loose it pourosity as for the life if you don't care for it, it will die an some things will feed of the life on the rock they do in the wild and will in your tank.
But this forum is pretty remote try taking it to the main forum (reef discussion)and ask for 1 year plus TBS LR tank owner only you should hopefully get a bigger crowd of TBS owners
Good luck
NoobieNemo
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I'm a drug free type of person, anyways, I think you're a little off, but hey man, good luck on finding your rock, maybe 11 months from now, I can find this thread and say "Hey Abynum1! I'm very happy with my TBS rock, a year later! And guess what man! It's still porous!"
see ya then!call richard
see ya then!call richard
NoobieNemo
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i second delta, go to the main forum
Abynum1
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Delta, why do people always criticize TBS or Florida aquacultured rock by saying its too dense or not porous enough? It's sounds like from your explanation that it's a reputation undeserved? LET ME STOP RIGHT HERE...I am not challenging your statement...It makes perfect sense...just wondering where the criticism stemmed from to begin with?
Abynum1 said:Delta, why do people always criticize TBS or Florida aquacultured rock by saying its too dense or not porous enough? It's sounds like from your explanation that it's a reputation undeserved? LET ME STOP RIGHT HERE...I am not challenging your statement...It makes perfect sense...just wondering where the criticism stemmed from to begin with?
There have been MANY claims on this from customers here (just do a search). I bought 20 pounds 7 months ago, and the rocks were all round like cannonballs (they looked like ****). I didn't get lucky, when it came to the shapes I guess :rolleye1: ...
I just wished the colorful sponges didn't die off. I fed DT's and Zoo but they eventually died off. I wouldn't buy any more TBS myself, but that is just my opinion.
Abynum1
Premium Member
Yea that's another thing I've heard a lot of "rocks round like cannonballs" I'm going to Tampa in the next month or so. Guess I'll stop by and see what they got. With all the mixed reveiws I can't see spending over a grand w/o being 100% positive of what I'm getting. Sorry your's didn't turn out so hot R33F3R
NoobieNemo
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Oh man, I'd love to tell you what I honestly think Abynum1, however, I'm sure you're probably twice my age, so I'll act your age, and say, I tried to help you, sorry that you feel I didn't....But again, call Richard, he guarantees his stuff and he's been in the business for years, so apparently he's doing something right!
delta
Premium Member
LR is like a car some people swear by ford some by chevy and so on. its just the nature of the beast. but you need to reseach it and find what you like. i am not saying you wont get shapes and sizes you want if you go with TBS all i am saying is some have been very happy some have not but that is accross the boards happens with all rock. down side to buying LR online.
but like i said before go to a mainstream forum (reef discussion)
and pose this question take what you need and leave the rest
i hope this helps it is very hard to buy sight unseen maybe you could talk to a few different vendors and talk to them as well as hitting the main forum. most who frequent this forum have recently purchased TBS and it is probably not the best place for you to get the answer to your specific question.
Goodluck
but like i said before go to a mainstream forum (reef discussion)
and pose this question take what you need and leave the rest
i hope this helps it is very hard to buy sight unseen maybe you could talk to a few different vendors and talk to them as well as hitting the main forum. most who frequent this forum have recently purchased TBS and it is probably not the best place for you to get the answer to your specific question.
Goodluck
NoobieNemo
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lol again, I second delta! gj!
Abynum1
Premium Member
Thanks guys.I did post the same question in "vendor experiences" I will post it under the "reef discussion" area.Sorry that I got so irritated nemo. It's just that everytime TBS is menetioned you get bombarded w/a ton of people saying "yippee! TBS, its the best,buy it!" but when you ask them how long they've had it, you find out it's just been a few months.While all that is very encouraging, it's kinda like asking someone's opinion on a car when he just drove it off the car lot. I wanted to hear from the person thats been driving the car a while, and it seems like those people are fewer and farther between (which is discouraging.) All I was attempting to do was keep the topic going in the right direction. Sorry if you felt it was a personal attack. Like Delta said.I probably posted in the wrong forum anyway.so my fault.
NoobieNemo
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no hard feelings, but do what delta said, and post in the other forums, where the big dogs can help you out...
hdtran
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Abynum,
If you're willing to be very patient in your tank, PM me around October/November 04, and I will give you pictures & an update on my current TBS rock tank (which will have approx. 1 year by then). My previous experience with Fiji LR was positive until about 3 years, when I had a power failure.
I too had similar misgivings as you did, but I did not need pictures. I found some web (non RC/RDO) logs & BBS postings from customers who had had TBS rock for over a year, and were still happy. You will have problems finding experiences > 1 year because of the community 'age.' RC has grown tremendously, so the average 'age' at RC is probably less than 1 year (moderator, help please?).
I do not expect all the life on my TBS rock to last forever. I don't know the life expectancy of the oysters, clams, etc. I'm pretty sure that my bristleworms can reproduce in my tank, along with pods. I don't know which of the other microcritters will. I know that the corals, sponges, tunicates, etc. won't. At some point, even the best kept tank needs replenishment with additional substrate, rocks, or critters--because our tanks are not a perfect replica of the sea. We do water changes, we skim, we light, etc. to do the best we can, but when all is said and done, our 'closed' system is not a self-sustaining ecosystem.
As with any mail-order company, you don't see what you get until you get it. I have personally found TBS to be very accommodating of special requests, and their rock to be as varied in shape as premium Walt Smith Fiji. I'm sure some folks will have negative experience, but that's a general issue with most mail-order livestock.
The 'porosity' issue has to do with biological filtration capacity. The greater the surface area, the more colonization space for your nitrifying/denitrifying bacteria. I keep my tank relatively lightly stocked for its size, so I use less rock than recommended.
Regards,
Hy
If you're willing to be very patient in your tank, PM me around October/November 04, and I will give you pictures & an update on my current TBS rock tank (which will have approx. 1 year by then). My previous experience with Fiji LR was positive until about 3 years, when I had a power failure.
I too had similar misgivings as you did, but I did not need pictures. I found some web (non RC/RDO) logs & BBS postings from customers who had had TBS rock for over a year, and were still happy. You will have problems finding experiences > 1 year because of the community 'age.' RC has grown tremendously, so the average 'age' at RC is probably less than 1 year (moderator, help please?).
I do not expect all the life on my TBS rock to last forever. I don't know the life expectancy of the oysters, clams, etc. I'm pretty sure that my bristleworms can reproduce in my tank, along with pods. I don't know which of the other microcritters will. I know that the corals, sponges, tunicates, etc. won't. At some point, even the best kept tank needs replenishment with additional substrate, rocks, or critters--because our tanks are not a perfect replica of the sea. We do water changes, we skim, we light, etc. to do the best we can, but when all is said and done, our 'closed' system is not a self-sustaining ecosystem.
As with any mail-order company, you don't see what you get until you get it. I have personally found TBS to be very accommodating of special requests, and their rock to be as varied in shape as premium Walt Smith Fiji. I'm sure some folks will have negative experience, but that's a general issue with most mail-order livestock.
The 'porosity' issue has to do with biological filtration capacity. The greater the surface area, the more colonization space for your nitrifying/denitrifying bacteria. I keep my tank relatively lightly stocked for its size, so I use less rock than recommended.
Regards,
Hy
