Temperature Question

gasbatalla

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I have heard that many people keep their tanks in the 78-86 (approx.) range and that is sometimes good to have temperature swings because in the ocean they also have temp swings. But how about keeping the temp swing at most at 1 degree between day and night, using a heater and fans.

Which one would be more beneficial?
 
Set a temperature and don't change it. You'll have small swings, but they're fine. Natural water temperature changes over the course of months, you don't need to duplicate it in a tank unless you are trying to breed some species that may require it.

Jeff
 
-I always try and keep the temperature as stable as possible, I've never heard of temperature swings being a "good" thing, only stressful for the inhabitants.

I also keep my temps on the higher side around 80, only because its easier for me to keep stable.
 
You are not going to get a consensus on this one, people have success both ways. I personally run no heaters, chiller or fans and let my temp swing freely. I do feel this helps the corals deal with even larger swings from power outages, etc.

I believe temps in the ocean can change by 5+ degrees in a matter of seconds, not months.
 
I think the idea of temperature swings being good is like MCCOOL said, it's so the corals are used to the temperature adjusting when an accident happens. For most people who keep their tank at a set temperature via a heater, temperature swings can be detrimental.
 
Yes I think MCCOOL has a point there. There is always people that are going to support one way, and other people that are going to support the other way.

I think it is going to be more natural to allow those temperature swings (within reason) and not set the temperature on a single degree. I also think that it helps the corals to tolerate the swings when there is a power outage and no equipment available to help you control the temperature.

What would you guys set as the lowest and highest temperatures that won't be harmful to the tank?
 
Either way will work, but I recommend allowing fluctuations.

Conventional wisdom in the hobby is that you should minimize stress by avoiding temperature swings. The trouble with that logic is that there is NO evidence that temperature swings are stressful to reef inhabitants in the first place. In fact, all of the evidence suggests that at least in corals, fluctuating temperatures induce physiological changes that make them hardier and less susceptible to temperature stress. Corals from fluctuating environments even have higher photosynthetic efficiency than corals from stable environments.

To paraphrase Stephen Coles from his 1975 paper- the maximum temperature matters, not the fluctuation. The stress threshold for corals is 2-4 deg F above the average maximum temperature they've been acclimatized to, whether that's 78 or 86. They can tolerate 10+ degrees of fluctuation within a few minutes without any stress (provided they've been acclimatized to that range), but if you exceed their normal maximum temp by as little as 2 degrees, that could cause bleaching.

What would you guys set as the lowest and highest temperatures that won't be harmful to the tank?
Anywhere between 76 and 86 is fine. No part of that range is better than another. It's possible to go slightly hotter or slightly colder, but it's riskier and there's no benefit to it.

I also keep my temps on the higher side around 80
80 is far from the high side. More than 2/3 of the world's reefs, including virtually all in the center of reef diversity, have average temps greater than 80. The worldwide average is 82. ;)
 
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Either way will work, but I recommend allowing fluctuations.

Conventional wisdom in the hobby is that you should minimize stress by avoiding temperature swings. The trouble with that logic is that there is NO evidence that temperature swings are stressful to reef inhabitants in the first place. In fact, all of the evidence suggests that at least in corals, fluctuating temperatures induce physiological changes that make them hardier and less susceptible to temperature stress. Corals from fluctuating environments even have higher photosynthetic efficiency than corals from stable environments.

To paraphrase Stephen Coles from his 1975 paper- the maximum temperature matters, not the fluctuation. The stress threshold for corals is 2-4 deg F above the average maximum temperature they've been acclimatized to, whether that's 78 or 86. They can tolerate 10+ degrees of fluctuation within a few minutes without any stress (provided they've been acclimatized to that range), but if you exceed their normal maximum temp by as little as 2 degrees, that could cause bleaching.


Anywhere between 76 and 86 is fine. No part of that range is better than another. It's possible to go slightly hotter or slightly colder, but it's riskier and there's no benefit to it.


80 is far from the high side. More than 2/3 of the world's reefs, including virtually all in the center of reef diversity, have average temps greater than 80. The worldwide average is 82. ;)

Im setting up my chiller and wondering what the minimum and maximum temperatures should be for coral? Could I have the chiller turn on at 85.5 and have it shut off once its cooled down to 77.4? How does this affect the fish?
 
i can only attest to the maximum which for me was 91F. it was summer over here and the pair of fans i have blowing ontop of my tank fell on the floor. t'was like that for a whole day and when i came back the following day, saw the temp and when i dipped my hand and arm in the water, it was really warm. all my livestock were ok in my sps dom mixed reef but i dont think i would wanna try going over that.
 
I try to keep my temperature between 78-82. I set the heater at 78, and let my fan do evaporative cooling. Luckily in my area near the beach, the ambient temperature is usually cool.
 
That is how I have my controller set... 76 to 86. Anything lower, heaters kick in, Anything higher, fans kick in. No issues yet, although I just sold my mini reef to go with a fowlr. Will be going with the same concept though!
 
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