the future of skimming ?
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Neither my senior seminar (undergrad), nor my thesis are in surface and interfacial chemistry.
The closest I get is that I get 'faced with enough oj and vodka dosing, personally.
I'm curious about your take on Vitamin C Randy, but thats another thread. I'll definitely post here when I take some steps towards verifying an impact on my system. Thats going to be a while off since Im in a new build.
The closest I get is that I get 'faced with enough oj and vodka dosing, personally.
I'm curious about your take on Vitamin C Randy, but thats another thread. I'll definitely post here when I take some steps towards verifying an impact on my system. Thats going to be a while off since Im in a new build.
madadi
ReefOG
adding syrup to the skimmer so the bubbles hold more makes no sense in my opinion. the reason i say this is because the bubble's surface tension is drawing the syrup close to it. the same surface tension that we need for the skimmer to draw proteins and other bio-waste out of the water column. do you want to use your skimmer to pull sugar out of your reef tank or to pull the waste product it was first used for? just my 2 cents.
xJake
Active member
So I was thinking about with how you would dose supersaturated sugar-water and I found a huge problem that would make this idea completely useless. As soon as any tubing (or any object for that matter) is placed within the syrup, the sugar would begin to crystallize and block passage through the tube. It simply will not work unless you can find an alternative way of dosing.
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Good points all ~!
Madadi - I think thats what Randy was saying too. Valid consideration.
Jake - agreed. I've thought of that. Any tubes with salt or calcium clog up... foamy sugar would make a hard crystal substance residue.
Madadi - I think thats what Randy was saying too. Valid consideration.
Jake - agreed. I've thought of that. Any tubes with salt or calcium clog up... foamy sugar would make a hard crystal substance residue.
liveforphysics
New member
Find it amazing that a bubble can be stable at 1uM. I think they are doing this by organizing a completed crystaline structure in the sugar which does not leave areas available for other species to effect it.
I regularly think about making a skimmer that uses ultrasonic transducers to create controlled and focused micro cavitation. The colapse of the micro bubbles causes violant stress locally on chemical species around them. Skimming by nature is only a half-capable export method, as it can only export the compounds which increase the stregnth of a bubble. If something could be working to cause enough stress to rearrange the hydrophilic compounds to have enough/more hydrophobic parts to permit them to be skimmed.
From my experience with skimming, it results in a nutrient removal method with does not match the N
ratios present in the foods I add. It seems N compounds are more often hydrophobic than P compounds, and I have an accumulation of P over time. If I stop skimming, my chaeto growth rate increases (no longer N limited), and my P levels quickly become undectable.
Ultrasound and cavitation created micro bubbles may be a solution to this skimming issue.
Best Wishes,
-Luke
I regularly think about making a skimmer that uses ultrasonic transducers to create controlled and focused micro cavitation. The colapse of the micro bubbles causes violant stress locally on chemical species around them. Skimming by nature is only a half-capable export method, as it can only export the compounds which increase the stregnth of a bubble. If something could be working to cause enough stress to rearrange the hydrophilic compounds to have enough/more hydrophobic parts to permit them to be skimmed.
From my experience with skimming, it results in a nutrient removal method with does not match the N
ratios present in the foods I add. It seems N compounds are more often hydrophobic than P compounds, and I have an accumulation of P over time. If I stop skimming, my chaeto growth rate increases (no longer N limited), and my P levels quickly become undectable. Ultrasound and cavitation created micro bubbles may be a solution to this skimming issue.
Best Wishes,
-Luke
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BACK REEFIN'
When a chemist raises technical problems, an engineer proposes solutions.
I love RC. Except for the trolls and naysayers, but great convo for those participating ~!
I love RC. Except for the trolls and naysayers, but great convo for those participating ~!
hahnmeister
In Memoriam
So we should clean our tanks with ultrasonic toothbrushes? 
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BACK REEFIN'
Hahn - you've been having too much fun with Photoshop distort tools. Your alienhead avatars are freakin me out. You should get your 10k post in this thread btw.
Luke - thanks for the input. Something from these guys ?
http://www.parsonicscorp.com/
Luke - thanks for the input. Something from these guys ?
http://www.parsonicscorp.com/
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