The great DISTURBANCE!
The great DISTURBANCE!
Hello again, I see this is already a hit!
Let me first start and comment on a few of everyones comments.
Shawnts106, I dont understand your take on refugiums
I love Refugiums... I had one myself, I loved it because I could grow fresh macro for my wonderful tangs that I love so much and grow fresh coral food for the ... corals I love so much ...Plus it provides a service, which is nutrient removeal.. while a fuge might not be as efficient as say.. a Deltec whatever but it does do a job none-the-less.
To be honest I dont understand why people waste their money on DT's and such. Why make your tank dirtier than it has to be?
I will let you in on something, DT's works.. and if you have a skimmer to pull whats left over out, then good...
I used to not use DTS and then one day found it and started useing it and WALAA!... I noticed a HUGE difference, better coral health, better PE better pod population.. healthier looking everything!... The stuff works, plus, if you plan on ever keeping Gonipora and Alveopora species... youve got to have the stuff IMO...
Guys you really have to see this advancedaquarists tank feature. Its an 80gallon run with out a skimmer using a plenum. He calls it the "Jaubert System". He also only uses 4 x 54 watt T5's on his 80gallon tank with SPS simply everywhere. This alone is amazing.
Thats what IM TALKING ABOUT!
I have strong suspicions that most people's tanks would run at their peak potentials WITH a skimmer.
Possibly, depending on the corals they wish to keep, like I stated earlier, Goniopora and Alveopora species like "dirty water" but if your growing acros out the wa-zoo then it might be a good idea to, depending on which side of the fence your leaning on.
Thank you for posting that about your tank, that was much help too all, I wish that more Skimmerless people would post like that, showing what they do and when they do it.
I still do not understand why anyone would WANT to run a tank without a skimmer
well, thats why I created this thread. Thats what we are doing, learning from each other.
Yes you can have success without a skimmer, but I know for a FACT that if you added a skimmer on to these skimmerless systems they would improve in appearance.
So your telling me that those marvelous tanks would look better??? hum, bold statement!
What happens if you need to treat for red bug? You need the skimmer to pull the medication out of the tank.
What happens when your clams decided to spawn
Why not use a technology that CAN and WILL make your job much easier while making your tank cleaner, clearer and more enjoyable to look at?
Well some people acctually have water on hand for these, rare happenings. but yes, a skimmer would aid in these rare situations.
But who removes the skimmate from the beach, wouldn't most of it wash back into the sea?
Yes it does, Normally the nutrient content near the shore is higher than a reef due to that exactly... thats why algae blooms happen near the shore and not in the middle of the pacific... NOW in the event that happened, we would all need to suddenly get on our hands and knees, reach for the sky and start screaming like all get out... or... you could just go on liveing your daily life... whatever suits you.
Like a DSB? ; Shhhh......You might wake the fanatic BB worshipers
LOL, OH GOSH, lets NOT GET ON DSB VS BB!... not the place for that, and I HAVE STRONG VIEWS ON THAT SUBJECT!... trust me, not a friendly place to go....
My skimmer has to be cleaned every few days and I am not talking the collection cup, I am talking the complete skimmer, it is huge and a pain in the butt.
LMBO, you own a SEACLONE DON'T YOU!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! lol!
sorry just had too!
OK, now that thats over... Lets look at some other possibilitys... like DUEL METHODS, HYBRIDIZING METHODS...
What about... setting up a system that runs a refugium and a skimmer. Lets say you have a 100 gallon aquarium and you have a fuge but need a skimmer, so get a skimmer rated up to 100gallons, meaning its acctually rated from 50 to 75gallons... that way, your not overskimmer, but slightly underskimming and utilizing the eco-method so youv'e got the best of both worlds?
Kinda like those ugly BB systems with a big ol' 5 gallon bucket filled with sand that is suppose to be a denitrofier.
This would aid in alot, aid in pod population, and help make your life easier if say, you did have a red bug problem or flatworm problem or your clams spawned....
etc.. lets hear more good things about this hybrid system....
