The Life of Blue Spots Tank 1800L

The Life of Blue Spots Tank 1800L

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It might be a good idea to replace your current test kits to make sure you are getting accurate readings. It's also a worthwhile idea to have test kits from different makers to ensure one of them isn't way off.

Dave.M
 
Now Dave your not gonna believe me here , but I am normally a good little reefer when it comes to this and I realy do have multiple kits for certain things. But not for magnesium , i have a little bit of colour blindness so struggle to see a change with certain tests. For magnesium I can only read/see the Red Sea kit tried all sort of brands . Nothing more satisfying than when you start your test the water looks purple and when you finish it . Lol
Doesn't sound to good martini with the white spot thing , but if their is one thing I have learned about bsjf it's that you never know, I would have put Bert down as a gonna aswell but he's out survived everyone. Have you got little homes for them in the QT. I have found they freak out if they can't burry. Not heard about treating with kanaplex, sounds interesting . Have you started a thread on it yet ? If so would you post a link so I can have a look.
 
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Now Dave your not gonna believe me here , but I am normally a good little reefer when it comes to this and I realy do have multiple kits for certain things. But not for magnesium , i have a little bit of colour blindness so struggle to see a change with certain tests. For magnesium I can only read/see the Red Sea kit tried all sort of brands . Nothing more satisfying than when you start your test the water looks purple and when you finish it . Lol
Doesn't sound to good martini with the white spot thing , but if their is one thing I have learned about bsjf it's that you never know, I would have put Bert down as a gonna aswell but he's out survived everyone. Have you got little homes for them in the QT. I have found they freak out if they can't burry. Not heard about treating with kanaplex, sounds interesting . Have you started a thread on it yet ? If so would you post a link so I can have a look.
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I haven't. They have containers of sand in the qt but won't use them. They also have PVC pipes, rocks. Doesn't seem to matter. Not sure exactly what to do. They are in separate qt right now. I honestly thought the one was almost dead. Now it's still alive and I'm not sure what to do :/ I'm gonna have to figure
Something else I out though because they are just
Laying on the bottom
Of the tank and won't use the containers
 
Blue spot news . Beryl my new blue spot is brown bread :(. No idea why with beryl, she was eating , made a home , not overly. shy but got up this morning and dead . No signs of ill health but a big chunk of skin missing on the tail , but this could have happened after death . Realy confused . Bert is still doing good so can't say it was water quality. The only thing that has moved is my engineer goby, these can do some damage as I have seen in the past so it could have been that ? I'm gonna have to sort this female blue spot thing out and quickly , I'm running out of names beginning with b .
 
Another update is my magnesium rise to kill the byropsis . I hate doing this as it is sending my tank into unknown territory for me. I've got stuck at around 1400 . But my calcium has climbed massively , I know everything is linked but I wasn't expecting this . I've stopped dosing calcium completely to see what happens . At the moment I am in tank misery. I normally get a lot of pleasure out of it but at the moment it's doing my head in, I'm watching all my corals getting swamped with this byropsis and nothing seams to be denting it yet.
 
Right enough of the glum. Doing lots of research on byropsis. Getting conflicting information though. Clean up crew, I have a small clean up crew compared to the size of my tank. I have around 5 snails, 10 hermits , a chocolate chip starfish ( yes I know these are coral eaters) and a long spiked urchin. I have read that snails will dent byropsis and also they will not ? Raising magnesium if not using Kent will not effect byropsis v/s any magnesium raise will remove byropsis ? Pulling byropsis spreads it throughout the tank due to spores being released , pulling byropsis is the only way to remove it ? Byropsis thrives in pristine water conditions, byropsis can be eradicated with ultra low phos and nitrates and regular water changes ?
Everything I have read is contradictory and I have yet to read something where someone has written I have beaten byropsis. If you can help me with any links or personal experience I would realy appreciate it . Not sure what to try next.
 
Well it's officially a disaster ! Trying to raise my magnesium has gone very wrong for me, I cannot get my magnesium above 1,400 and my calcium is going through the roof. The obvious enough thing is that I have gotten confused with my dosing containers or something but this is not the case and I have tested the contents even though I was 100% sure I hadn't mixed them. Do not know what I have done wrong. But the outcome is byropsis still a plague proportions, I've lost 6 fish in a week (including my feminus wrasse) and today my powder blue has white spot, probably from all the stress of the strange water quality I now have. This is why for me I hate doing any chemical intervention . I always have something go wrong !
So crisis plan. First thing I am getting in the tank with a syphon and a wire brush to get as much byropsis gone as I can. Then water change to try and get my parameters back to normal, then I'm going to add 3 million snails . From here we will see what happens . Wish me luck again ( I am so ****ed off )
 
Sorry things have gone awry for you. Get your water parameters back to normal before adding snails and things. They are far more sensitive to water chemistry than fish.

Just a thought: Do you regularly clean your sandbed or have a sandbed clean-up crew (nassarius snails, conchs, sand-sifting gobies, etc.)? Do you regularly clean your rock of settled debris to be swept up and captured by your filter socks? These steps can help eliminate a lot of pollutants that can feed algae in the tank.

Dave.M
 
Hi Dave. Yeh my sandbed isn't 2 bad. I have gobys and Nass snails , I'm not going to say I have a ultra low nutrient tank. My nitrates used to be around 15 to 20 and I have improved this to 2 to 5 . I have a rollomat which does a great job of taking out anything before it hits the sump so I regularly get the turkey Bastet in a squirt the rocks. The byropsis clings to the most pores parts of the rock. So say on plating rock the top will be unaffected but the edges will be covered . That was one of my questions though, I have read that nutrient control will not eliminate byropsis. If it does I will work on this but can't find anyone who has had luck with this. I should point out aswell I don't get any other algae problems , I had bubble early on but this has all but gone now, mind you with this much byropsis nothing else gets a chance :)
 
First stage completed :) I started just after my last post and I have only just sat down. All rock removed and scrubbed and replaced. Water change done. Tomorrow I will see what the damage is to my water quality and get a load of clean up crew. Done a new layout while I was at it. Looks a little more like your traditional wall of rock now and I've removed quite a lot of rock aswell. Less rock less byropsis was my theory.
 
Firstly , tank is lookin bangin again ! Second thing is I went to my lfs to pick up some clean up crew. I had told him about how I had some success with the co2 scrubber, and he added it to his tanks to try it out aswell. He has now turned it off again as he has had an algae explosion also, not byropsis just the glass and a bit of filament algae . Looking back my byropsis explosion also tied in with adding the co2 scrubber. After doing more research it seams like this is a thing (typing in co2 scrubber and algae Blume) so I've turned it off again. Another good thing is that when I stripped my tank out I found a huge crab , the bad type right where the beryl blue spot was . I am wondering now if this is what got beryl as I said it was a strange death also ties in with my feminus wrasse who had just been sort of speared through her stomach ( though I still wonder if this was a gyre injury) . Anyway terrible reefing month but all good learning and hopefully back on the up. I'll get some pictures of the new layout next week
 
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Tank update. Byropsis , starting to grow slowly again . I am trying to raise mag only by separate dosing now , not putting it through my apex , this way I feel I have more control over it . I'm using Hydrat mg heard this is similar to tech m which I can't find over here. The only thing is I could do with loads of the Hydrat mg I can see they do a 2l and 20l but again can't find this in the uk. Using a 250ml every 2 days. White spot on the powder blue and long nose I'm using reef safe medic to see how this fares. They have had it for about a month. When all my water went funky. I was hoping that with a good feeding regime and getting my water back might these fish might be able to fight it off naturally. The long nose looks a little better but the powder blue not so much. Can't catch and quarantine so I am hoping this might nock it back enough for the fish to pull through. Again not all glum . Tank is looking much better with byropsis thinned. Now that the co2 scrubbing is removed I am hardly cleaning my glass again ( it was every 2 days with the co2 scrubber) and all other fish and coral are looking good. Forgot to mention I snuck in a potters Angel. Realy healthy looking fish so thought I would give it ago. It got a little harassed first day by the tigerpyge. But after that all good and eating well. I love angels but aware of the conflicts with not only keeping them in a reef but also keeping to many together. At the moment I have 1 big a gold flake and 4 dwarfs. Tigerpyge , venustus, watanabi and a potters. I would like a flame but read these can be particularly bossy. The last thing is the tassled file fish. It's getting huge ! But I don't have the heart to get take it back as it has real character. Even when I came home a found a huge leg sticking out of the corner of its mouth, needless to say I have not seen my arrowhead crab since :(
 
Sorry for the lack of updates folks but I have been in full battle mode with my tank and feel like I'm loosing at the minute. First thing , white spot, reef safe medic seemed to do very little, used the top dose but it still seams to be spreading through the system. I've ordered an American product I have read about to try can't remember the name right now but I'll post when it arrives. In desperation I have tried the ginger method I have read about. This was late night reading which involved me rustling through the cupboards in the middle of the night to find the ginger. Long story short the first night I added nutmeg on accident :) if nothing else the tank smelled Christmassy the next day. Neither has seamed to be effective. My lfs suggested I add a cleaner wrasse to try and help clean the fishes guils , I have done this and the effected fish do seam slightly less stressed. Although I have done all this my main focus has been water changes and optimum water quality to see if they will pull through as I cannot catch and treat with copper . Byropsis is growing back slowly . I'm going to try tech m , but I'm not going to try this until white spot is diminished or wiped everything out. Other than the wrasse I have added nothing new to the tank and will not till both things are in order. Damage control currently. I'll get some pictures so you can see how it's looking. Nearly forgot , Bert blue spot has moved house, he's moved out about 5 times in the last couple of weeks , normally I shuffle him back in, but as he's moved out so many times I figure their must be something he's not happy with so I have put him some rubble in his new spot and he's made a new home. Yesterday I thought he had white spot also, but I am hoping it was just sand from where he has been burying.
 
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