The Life of Blue Spots Tank 1800L

The Life of Blue Spots Tank 1800L

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That really sucks, I'm sorry:/ this might be a case where a uv sterilizer could actually help. It will only kill some of the free floating parasites, but it could help decrease the load put on the fish. Ones that actually work are expensive though, I don't know the specifics on them but I know you have to change the water
Flow through to target a specific pathogen. Since catching and qt isn't an option, might be worth looking into. I think it's fresh ginger that people say you need to use, although I have no experience with that.


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Still got white spot. I think my powder blue may be past the point of recovery, getting very thin as he's stopped eating. I'm trying mardel parashield to see how that goes . Martini I do already have uv on , but maybe I'll renew the bulb as it's probably around 6 months . Just gonna have to see how everything fares.
 
Well things are just getting worse. I'm filled with fish tank gloom lately . Powder blue (Rupert) has died , this as mentioned was sad but not unexpected. But today woke up to find Bert wrapped around the gyre. Gutted. Bert was my favourite fish . Again not sure why , he wasn't showing any signs of white spot. he was eating well and everything . At the moment we are on tank lock down. Depending what happens in their, depends on what I do next. Personally I think i may be approaching my first wipe out! I've got byropsis running mad still . It's the old adage but I wish I knew then what I know now.
 
More fish gone. Today my tigerpyge Angel watanabi Angel, long nose butterfly and all the red spot cardinals 15 of them. The only fish left with visible signs are my venustus Angel and moorish idol. Hope it ends soon very digressing. I'm still trying different treatments, but nothing is working.
 
I would have a quarantine tank. Everyone tells you , and I've always managed without but if your having a tank this size . Treatments, catching fish etc Is nearly impossible without ripping the tank down. i also know what fish baught the white spot in , a tiny catalina goby, it was an impulse purchase from an lfs I don't normally use . added it to the tank as soon as the blue lights came on I could see the white spot on it, but to late at that point couldn't catch it. I also think I would leave the powder blue alone again everyone tells you they are prone to white spot , maybe if this fish wasn't so suceptible the others might have been able to fight of the White spot.
 
Blue spot said:
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Isn't this an tassel file fish? I didn't think they were reef safe.
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For some reason I was thinking both the fish in this picture were also not reef safe.

Does anyone know of where I can find a photo and stat guide (not online but to buy so I can have it in hand) that is accurate?
Thanks
 
Blue spot said:
I would have a quarantine tank. Everyone tells you , and I've always managed without but if your having a tank this size . Treatments, catching fish etc Is nearly impossible without ripping the tank down. i also know what fish baught the white spot in , a tiny catalina goby, it was an impulse purchase from an lfs I don't normally use . added it to the tank as soon as the blue lights came on I could see the white spot on it, but to late at that point couldn't catch it. I also think I would leave the powder blue alone again everyone tells you they are prone to white spot , maybe if this fish wasn't so suceptible the others might have been able to fight of the White spot.
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Excellent advise. There is a very effective fish trap that I have used many times with success.It takes a day or so to get them eating from it, then you can't keep them out!!Made by AQUA MEDIC.
 
Hey crayola. I've read mixed reports about the tassled file fish. Mine is definetly not crab safe, if I put a crab in she thinks it's dinner time. However doesn't bother with small fish corals or shrimps. Again that's only my experience I'm sure somebody will tell you it's eaten everything in the tank. Moorish I have also read is not good with coral. Again mine just eats flake and loves seaweed. The long nosed butterfly (which mine has now sadly died from the White spot) was a model reef fish , I've got feather dusters and everything in their and it never touched any of them. However it was the first fish along with the powder blue to "attract" the White spot. Thanks for the advise Ricardo I'll have a look for that fish trap. Though at the moment I am going through a downer with my tank as you can probably imagine. I think everything that is going to die, has . With the exception of my venustus Angel that is looking a bit spotty. The other thing I wouldn't do is the reef safe White spot treatments. I followed a number of them to the letter and not one had any sort of posative impact. I was desperate to try and save what I could but I am not sure if this did more harm than good from the point of view of adding unknowns into the tank. Has anyone had any long term success with these ?
 
Crayola forgot to mention, the one thing I didn't spot with the file fish is the size of it and how quickly it grows . It's like having an iPad floating round the tank. But it is a fish that everyone notices and asks about . Quite a personality, follows you round the tank and hand feeds on bits of prawn squid etc.
 
Even if your remaining fish don't show any sign of ich they can still be hosts. I would wait a MINIMUM of six months before adding any more fish to your system. Make sure any new fish are properly quarantined 6-8 weeks from now on.

Dave.M
 
Blue spot said:
The other thing I wouldn't do is the reef safe White spot treatments. I followed a number of them to the letter and not one had any sort of posative impact. I was desperate to try and save what I could but I am not sure if this did more harm than good from the point of view of adding unknowns into the tank. Has anyone had any long term success with these ?
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Did you do the homeopathic stuff or did you try the commercial grade treatments. I saw somewhere there was supposed to be an alternative chemical treatment that wouldn't hurt the corals or invertebrates. Just that you have to turn off your sump for like hours then afterwards do a 70% water change before starting it back up.


When I get my new tank I will have a quarantine tank. I had some white spots come up on my two tangs. I did the only thing I could think of at the time which was raise the water temp to 83 degrees (apparently the larva can't survive in water that warm) and low the salinity to 23 or a little less. Also this apparently does something to break the repo cycle. Within 24 hours most of the spots were gone.
Two days and they were all gone. I figured I was in the clear put everything back to normal and the spots came back in a week. I did the same thing again, and the spots have once again vanished. This time they've been at this temp for a week. All are eating like pigs and I have an air stone going as well to help oxygenate. I don't know if it actually did anything or not, but when the new tank goes up, the fish will remain in the old tank and get treated while the new tank cycles. Then after that it or my other tank will become my quarantine tank. I never saw any spots on any of my fish I got and I got them all from the same place except my clown and it has never had any spots. The tangs appear back to normal. I have only seen one spot on a fin since. But nothing serious. I'm hoping raising the temp helped but I have no idea. The corals seem to really like the warmer water though that's for sure. The fish don't seem to care either way. I've been keeping an eye on them and so far we've been good.
I thought 83 degrees would be way to warm and cause oxygen deprivation (hence the air stone but I know it won't do much because warmer water can't hold as much oxygen but figured it couldn't hurt). I honestly don't know if I got it from a fish or a rock. I mean, if this stuff can lay dormant for a while, any rocks, or corals you bring into your tank could have the eggs larva on them just waiting for a fish to come along.

Oh, and FWIW, on the nutmeg error. I don't know how it would affect fish, but nutmeg is actually a very dangerous hallucinogenic in humans. People who snort it (that's how they use it to get high) usually only do it once because it causes them to be so violently ill they never want to touch it again. But from what I understand it can lead to days worth of horrific hallucinations, violent vomiting and diarrhea. I'm pretty sure it's nutmeg that does that---I can't remember 100%---been so long since I read about it. But I'm pretty sure it was.
 
CrayolaViolence said:
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For some reason I was thinking both the fish in this picture were also not reef safe.

Does anyone know of where I can find a photo and stat guide (not online but to buy so I can have it in hand) that is accurate?
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Go to www.liveaquaria.com. They have a chart that describes reef safe or not. Use google images for picture of fish. Compatibility chart. Pretty useful!
 
Hey crayola and Dave . Thank you both for the advice, never thought about the temperature raising because of the blue spot, but I'll look into it now. Also agreed about adding nothing, tanks on lock down . Never herd this about nutmeg before, no wonder Christmas is such a special time of year ! I hope the fish went out that way. It's the way I want to go. Nutmeg.
 
Things are finally returning to normal on the tank. No more death since my last post. Tanks still on lock down and will remain so for a while. In the mean time I am concentrating on the byropsis. One thing with less fish there is less waste and less chance of me over feeding them, I have admitted this already, I used to put food in until the blue spot ate. So for one I have a nitrate reading of 2 , not undetectable but pretty good for me, I've never had a tank with lower than 5 until now. Why do this? I'm trying to rid byropsis , I'm going to have one last crack with the Kent mag , if this doesn't work I'm stripping the rock out and starting again ! I've also dropped my lights back to see if this helps.
Negotiations for a quarantine tank are going well . Helped by the fact that I have had a small funeral for every fish in the back yard (realy going for the sympathy vote)
Last thing is I've gone full triton, I was to scared to swap while things were going well, but now I've had a disaster, I'm up for anything.
 
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