The official WP40 running on controller thread.

[Jewlover]

Here is the pinout for the PUMP SIDE of the 3 pin connector.

Thanks very much for your input. Ill be doing this as soon as mine come in. :beer:

 

[Jewlover]

BTW is there any way you can let me see you Apex profile setup. Also I know your running two 1ohm resistors but how many watts are they. One last thing you attach the 0-5v frome the pump in between the two resistors right?

Thanks again
Dustin

 

[ItzGenX]

BTW is there any way you can let me see you Apex profile setup. Also I know your running two 1ohm resistors but how many watts are they. One last thing you attach the 0-5v frome the pump in between the two resistors right?

Thanks again
Dustin

The resistors I have are 1k Ohm 1 watt resistors from radio shack. Yes, you connect the signal wire from the pump between the two resistors. Simply check your voltage at the two resistor junctions before connecting to the pump. I have way too many profiles to list for my Apex. Like I said, I have profiles setup for each pump for every 10% increments starting at 40% duty cycle. That's 7 seperate profiles per powerhead excluding night mode and feed mode, which would make it 9 each. My profiles wouldn't really make much use for you since it really depends on how long your tank is and at what duty cycle the pump is currently at. I basically cut off all the current off in the tank, powered the powerhead in question on and counted in seconds how long the current takes to reach the other side of the tank. Like at 40% it takes 20 seconds to reach the other end of my tank, so that's the on time. The off time I just subtract 25%, so that is 15 seconds off. When it is off, the pump is set to half of it's max, so 40% power on, 20% power off. Most of it is just trial and error. The goal is to keep the dead spots moving. My 100% profile only takes 12 seconds to reach the other end of the tank, so it's 12 seconds on 100% with 9 seconds off 50%. Every 30 minutes I have it set to use the 100% profile for 30 minutes to kick up detritus.

 

[dwolson2]

GexX are you on reeftronics? Anyone can look up your profile there.

Back on topic. How much amperage are the power supplies rated for? Has anyone thought of using an auto cad program to make a simple board that can run 2 pumps without cutting any of the wires? I have an idea for one, but I would need a little help as I don't know how to run the program. lol

 

[drdoolittle]

Here is my ghetto schematic as promised. I have no specifics on wire colors coming from the pump side as I have not hooked up my multimeter to it to find out. I know from the Jebao controller side of the unit, the light blue wire is negative ground (-24v), reddish/orange/brown wire is positive (+24v), and the remaining third wire is the va signal wire to the pump. Simply test the 3 wires with a multimeter and label them before starting any wiring or splices.

Perfect! Simple, but yet understadable. Thanks for sharing.

 

[drdoolittle]

so, the built in controller only oscillate the 1-5 volts at a certain interval? like s sine wave just varying time?

 

[dwolson2]

Here is what I am thinking. A board made like this:

With connectors for bare wires at the ins and the outs. Then you could either use your own power supply or cut the supplied one. Also, it would control 2 pumps.
If the wiring is off or you have a change, LMK

 

[frogg21]

Just so you know, there's a parallel effort to control pwm LED's from 1-10v analog (apex) signal over here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2222702&page=53
O2Surplus designed the converter and I'm trying to get the code nailed down. Apparently you guys have the pump working fine on a 1-5v analog signal, O2Surplus could probably add this pump circuit to the converter board and run the pumps off a true 5v pwm signal like we're using for the LDD LED drivers..

 

[ItzGenX]

GexX are you on reeftronics? Anyone can look up your profile there.

Back on topic. How much amperage are the power supplies rated for? Has anyone thought of using an auto cad program to make a simple board that can run 2 pumps without cutting any of the wires? I have an idea for one, but I would need a little help as I don't know how to run the program. lol

No, I am not on reeftronics. I don't like the idea of my data feed constantly on the web. Give a ****ed off hacker a field day, and my tank could easily go into chaos while I am not looking.

I think each power supply is only rated to 24v@2.0A. Each WP-40 draws 38-40 watts at 100%.

 

[Pickupman66]

Doyou guys think it could be controlled with a Reefkeeper? how much amperage does it draw on the signalling circuit? if it is minimal, then one could use the ALC module to provide the 0-5v signal.

Or, there is the APC pump controller that signals the tunze pumps... uses rj45 jacks.

 

[ItzGenX]

The signal current draw is very minimal. My guess is that it is in the milliamps. It's one of the things I was going to measure before finalizing my wiring, but I forgot to check.

 

[Pickupman66]

OK. thats kinda what I was hoping. now if I knew what the APC module they use puts out ot the Tunze pumps, then I could look at using that to control the signaling.

 

[jdezek]

I'm going to need a step by step for dummies on how to hook it up to a reefkeeper elite.

 

[Pickupman66]

Jd, I'm still looking at it. If I had an apc module I could see what its output was and how it controls a tunze. The alc does 0-10v but won't oscillate like a pump.

How are the tunze controlled

 

[octopus737]

Anyone got thins on a Arduino up an running yet? Not a RA but a stand alone Arduino. If so i would be interested in seeing some sketches.... Or we can make this a group initiative. I have nothing against RA I am just an apex owner. I know RA has an Arduino under the hood so any and all information is helpful.

 

[jdezek]

What do you need to see with the ALC I have one on my tank.

 

[topjimmy]

I have mine running in a 65 on my ReefAngel. It is working great. I am still dialing in the modes and speeds that I like.

 

[Pickupman66]

JD, I need to know what sort of ourput the APC Advanced Pump COntroller has for DA. I know it hooks to the Tunze, but I dont have one of those or the APC. I do have an ALC but since it is for lights, it wont oscilate fast enough for wavemaker use.

edit...

just spoke to the folks @ DA.
so Tunze uses a 0-8 volt signalling on their controller the APC mimics it. it does master/slave, sequential firing and ramps up and down. so in theory, it could signal one of the WP-40's. one woudl just need to determine exact voltage outputs and go from there. maybe ill ask for one for my birthday...

 

[jdezek]

Yeah I read that wrong I also have the ALC not the APC. At this point I really wish I would have heard of the reef angle before I purchased the reef keeper. It cost less and is more versetal then the RK.

 

[barry_keith]

Anyone got thins on a Arduino up an running yet? Not a RA but a stand alone Arduino. If so i would be interested in seeing some sketches.... Or we can make this a group initiative. I have nothing against RA I am just an apex owner. I know RA has an Arduino under the hood so any and all information is helpful.

Yes, check out the big Wp40 thread. I know at least one guy posted pics, code, the parts, and a video using Arduino.

I too have an apex, I think the cable that the guys at Reef Angel cam up with is the best bet for us apex owners.