The T5 Q&a Thread

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9072548#post9072548 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TekCat
Maybe this was asked/answered before, if so I appologize for cluttering the thread. But I was wondering, when overdriving 54W T5 with 80W ballast what does it do to spectrum of the bulb? In theory, the higher energy - the higher frequency (lower wavelength). Or am I on drugs again? :)
TIA

It really shouldn't change much. The phosphors emitt light at a certain spectrum based on being excited by the UV light created by the lamp. More UV should make the phosphores create more light, not a different spectrum.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9073401#post9073401 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kobes
FYI for all about the TEK retro. the kits apparently come with new reflectors that appear to be identical to the icecap SLRs.

TEK II REFLECTORS

i stumbled across this when i found out the kit i ordered would be the new revision. the kits come with a workhorse ballast now but their site states that it operates at t5 spec so i'm assuming it has soft start.

REV II KIT

Anyone else spot the huge problem with Tek's new kit?




NEW PRODUCT!
• Includes the new & improved Tek II 96% reflective T5 reflectors.
• Fulham Workhorse ballast
• Waterproof end-caps and sockets
• 8 ft of paired 18g color coded wiring
• Ballast operates at lamp specifications for longer lamp life
• 8 ft power cord - 120 volt
• Boxed in retail friendly packaging
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9073722#post9073722 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by amheck
hey guys, if I currently have:

GE 6500K
2x Blue+
Aquablue

and I switch to:
UVL Super Actinic
ATI Aquablue
UVL Aquasun
ATI Blue Plus

Will that give me a tad more blue? I skimmed thru some posts here and that seemed to be the recommended 4 bulb combo.

Thanks!
Aaron

Probably a slightly less.

UVL Super actinic
Blue Plus
Aquasun
Blue Plus

Will get you a little more blue,
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9073810#post9073810 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pito
How long do Ice Cap ballasts usually last? I was gonna buy some used ones. They're 2yrs old.

There are people out there with over 10 years on them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9074234#post9074234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Anyone else spot the huge problem with Tek's new kit?




NEW PRODUCT!
• Includes the new & improved Tek II 96% reflective T5 reflectors.
• Fulham Workhorse ballast
• Waterproof end-caps and sockets
• 8 ft of paired 18g color coded wiring
• Ballast operates at lamp specifications for longer lamp life
• 8 ft power cord - 120 volt
• Boxed in retail friendly packaging

well....i have my qualms about them changing to a workhouse ballast. i've researched for so long and ordered a rig from one of the sponsors. on their site it still has the old info for the tek kits and i went ahead with the assumption that they were still the same old kits. i'm happy with the reflector upgrade but i'm concerned with the workhorse. their ad states that it runs at t5 spec and i believe that soft-start is part of the spec.
 
guess I will be going back to the local place and paying for the soft-start ballast that I found here. Just did not want to pay what they wanted for them. Oh well.
 
Here are Fulhams specs

Specifications Common to all WorkHorse Ballasts

Frequency: 50/60 Hz

ATHD: Meets ANSI C82.11-1993

Protection/Overcurrent: Fuse

Protection/Voltage Transients: MOV (PER ANSI C82.11 - 1993)

EMI/RFI: FCC PART 18-A



Regulatory Approvals: UL & cUL Listed Type 1 Outdoors

High Power Factor: >.90

Open Circuit Voltage: 600 V RMS Max.

Min. Operating Temp.: -20* F (-30* C)

Max. Case Temp.: 158* F (70* C)

Lamp Starting Mode: Instant Start

Class P: Thermal

Sound Rating: A
____________________________________________________

Instant Start and NO end of life protection, not T5 specs. They also use a little more power and produce slightly less light than Dynamic brand T5 ballasts.
 
That is great your box is full I will try to PM you later as I am looking for 39w ballasts.



<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9074960#post9074960 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Roland Jacques
dwdenny
i have some extra Soft start ballast. ill PM you
 
I will be going to ReefGeek and pick up my IceCap 8x54 kit tomorrow. Greg seems to be a very nice person. I will be getting this bulb combo. Tell me your opinions.

3 ATI Blue +
2 UVL Super Atinics
1 UVL Aquasun Daylight
1 GE 3000
1 ATI Aquablue 12K

Not sure what order to put them in but hopefully this should make my new 150g reef look ok.

Prime
 
Add a GE 6500K daylight to your list of lamps. You need a spare and that will allow you to play with diffrent mixes of lamps once your up and running. Keep an actinic in the first or second row and one near the back. Other than that keep the daylights and 3000K toward the middle maybe seperated by the Aquablue.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9074097#post9074097 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TekCat
hahnmeister, thanks for explanation. So, basically it all depends on what type of bulb gets overdriven. Is there an illustration of some sort what happens to different bulbs "on steroids"? (Like: Blue+ gets whiter, etc...)

There is no 'for sure' example. See, some bulbs that have a narrow output and get overdriven but never had the potential to create some other spectrums, so overdriving them doesnt mean you will get anything in particular if there is nothing to begin with of a certain spectrum. Usually, if its a bulb that has a trace amount of a spectrum, then there is enough to have that spectrum boosted.

Heres a good way to put it... light is part of the EM spectrum. Now while boosting the output of that bulb, while you may expect certain spectrums to be boosted, you wouldnt expect, say... the Gamma-Ray portion of the EM spectrum to get boosted, because the potential was never there in the first place for the bulb to make Gamma-Rays.

OTOH, if you have a purple/blue bulb that also happens to have a small green spike, the potential is there for that to be boosted, as the capability to make that green spectrum is there.

The more narrow the output of a bulb is (lots of peaks in specific ranges), the more its 'look' will change as you overdrive it. If you have a bulb that has a very broad and flat output, then the overdriving wont be as noticable.

Blue and Purple (actinic) bulbs that peak at 450 and 420nm look 'whiter' when overdriven. Daylight bulbs, or bulbs with broad and even outputs in a variety of spectrums keep their 'look' much better when overdriven.
 
**WARNING: NEW INFORMATION ON TEK RETROFIT KITS**

The new TEK kit comes with a Workhorse Ballast

after looking into it more and with the help of grim i've found that the new revision of the TEK kit is definately a double edged sword. the issue is that all the vendors/sponsors still have the TEK kit listed as the original kit with the lesser reflectors but with the proper ballast. i ordered the kit under the assumption that it was the same and had no idea that there was an updated version that contained the workhorse ballast. i'm currently in talks with the vendor to see if i can work out some kind of exchange for just the ballast.
 
Hi, I have been reading many pages of this informative topic! Will this setup work, from what I have gathered? I am looking to have a 120g (4x2x2), mixed reef, with mainly soft corals, LPS, Clam, maybe a few SPS. I am looking at a retro IceCap 6 bulb setup. Will this be enough, or is the 8 bulb better? I don't want most things to be overpowered, and I can obviously place the more light needing creatures more towards the top, just want some final advice so I don't regret it later! Thank you to all for your help!

Sam
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9074234#post9074234 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Anyone else spot the huge problem with Tek's new kit?




NEW PRODUCT!
• Includes the new & improved Tek II 96% reflective T5 reflectors.
• Fulham Workhorse ballast
• Waterproof end-caps and sockets
• 8 ft of paired 18g color coded wiring
• Ballast operates at lamp specifications for longer lamp life
• 8 ft power cord - 120 volt
• Boxed in retail friendly packaging

Well, how did they go and add waterproof endcaps, and these supposedly better reflectors (Sam said that they are coated as well as being more reflective), and then handycap the bugger with a WH ballast and no fans!!!???

I wonder what they will look like.

Maybe it would be worth selling as just a shell and then people would add their own ballasts to an otherwise potent unit.
 
thanks hahnmeister. combining your first and second explanation now made perfect sense to me :) thanks again!!!
 
hey t5ers,

Does anyone know if the helios waterproof endcaps from commodity axis can be used with the tek retrofits. If not any info on helios ballast in comparison.

Thanks in advance,
ron
 
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