The T5 Q&a Thread

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9323043#post9323043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yeldarbj
I'm going to add a 2x39w T5 retro (Tek w/IC SLRs from Reefgeek) to my existing 2x96w PC fixture over a 65g tank. My PC bulbs are dual 10K/460nm bulb and a dual actinic (420nm & 460nm) so my tank already has a very blue tint. I'm trying to decide which T5 lamps to order with the retro kit. I currently have mostly softies and a few LPS and want to start getting more light intense corals while improving the color of existing zoas & LPS.

Option 1 (for best color?) - UVL Super Actinic & ATI BluePlus
Option 2 (more light) - GE 3000K & ATI AquaBlue
Option 3 - 3000K or 6500K with either the SuperActinic or BluePlus

Any other suggestions? What are your thoughts on the 3000K vs 6500K?

With just a few other lamps I would opt for the UVL Aquasun over the GE 3000K. The Aquasun has some red in it but it is not as strong as the GE so it wont over power your other lamps. If the idea is to bump up the PAR I would go for the Aquasun and a Aquablue. If you need more pop for your colors use the Blue Plus instead of the Aquablue, you only give up about 10% PAR output.
 
Re: HQI DE & T5 , The Shnitz ?

Re: HQI DE & T5 , The Shnitz ?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9323249#post9323249 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Steve 926
Hello Grim & Hahn.

A few pages back, you both mentioned combining MH & T5.
Is this combo better suited for a larger tank, or is a smaller one (50 gal.36L 15w 20T) applicable. The combo sounds like it may be the best of both systems.

Any Thoughts on this ? and of course, :lol: what recommendations do you have on available systems. 150K DE ? 175k DE, 4 x 39 T5 ?

AS ALWAYS

Thanks to you both, for your input & experience !!!

Steve :smokin:

You might have a hard time getting 4 T5's and a halide in there. I would use a good 10K halide with 2 Blue Plus T5's.
 
Ok. Yet another question about bulbs!

I have a 4 x 24W (Tek retro) setup on a 29 gallon. My bulbs are currently;

Front
Aquablue
Actinic +
GE Sun
Actinic +

I like the dusk dawn color but I don't like the color when all the bulbs are on, it looks too washed out. I am replacing bulbs soon so I was thinking of going with:

Front
Super Actinic (maybe aquablue instead)
Blue +
Aquablue
Blue +

Would that be a good combo? I am also thinking about getting an IceCap 660 ballast to overdrive the bulbs. I know I would lose the dusk, dawn effect but I want to start getting some SPS and maybe a clam. Thanks for the input.
 
Okay Grim I ended making a decision and will be going for the Sunlight Supply 24" 2x24W Tek Retrofit System.

I have to choices to buy it from, however it seems both choices look different. Here are two places I'm choosing b/w:


http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/store_pages/details/l-fl-retro2.php?product_ID=sl-t5tret24

http://www.reefperfection.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=418


the thing is that the one from reefperfection looks more advanced with its advertised description of having the new & improved Tek II 96% reflective T5 reflectors which jlaquatics does not state

Also the two pictures look different too.

Which one should I buy?
 
Re: HQI DE & T5 , The Shnitz ?

Re: HQI DE & T5 , The Shnitz ?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9323249#post9323249 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Steve 926
Hello Grim & Hahn.

A few pages back, you both mentioned combining MH & T5.
Is this combo better suited for a larger tank, or is a smaller one (50 gal.36L 15w 20T) applicable. The combo sounds like it may be the best of both systems.

Any Thoughts on this ? and of course, :lol: what recommendations do you have on available systems. 150K DE ? 175k DE, 4 x 39 T5 ?

AS ALWAYS

Thanks to you both, for your input & experience !!!

Steve :smokin:

The economics as well as logistics of MH+T5 combos favors using them on tanks that are usually 100gallons or larger. There are exceptions, but usually with custom tanks. For instance, a 75g w/o a center brace is an excellent candidate for a single 250watt halide in the center with 2 rows of blue+ T5s to suppliment. The other options are dual 150s with those T5s, but then you are paying 2x as much as a single 250watt really, since bulbs, ballasts, and reflectors for 150s cost just as much as 250s, sometimes more. The combo in this case ends up being a very expensive, yet limiting proposition (I mean, 150s arent exactly a bulb you can upgrade to a much larger tank with). So 250s are really the best bang-for-the-buck halide. Using two of them alone on a 75g though is plenty of light... but given the wattage and the output if you were to use two 14,000K or 20,000K bulbs in this config, you would be better off with a T5 only system compared to a MH only system.

So this is why I say usually 100g systems or larger is where you want to start looking at MH+T5 systems... but thats purely from the logistics/economics standpoint. If you want to, there is no reason why a single 150watt MH with a 2-4 rows of T5s on a 58g isnt a good idea... its just an added expense.

The other reason I gave is logistics. Well, halides take up space, and on a tank that is 12" thick, you arent going to be able to fit a reflector thats 8-9 inches thick with more than one T5 lamp. On an 18" thick tank, you might get 2 rows of T5s in with some halides provided the halides arent in larger, lumenarc style reflectors. There is a way to get 4 rows of 4' reflectors over a 125g with dual halides... but like I said... its not easy. Really, 24" thick tanks are where you can easily place halide pendants and 4 rows of T5 fixtures with ease (you could go up to 6 rows if you wanted and the halide reflectors were thin enough). Yet another reason why I say 100g tanks on up or something custom. Fitting the actual lights and reflectors over a tank that is too narrow can be impossible. For this, and some other reasons, a T5 only system (sometimes MH only system, like on a 24" cube) is a better idea.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9323670#post9323670 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by emoore
Ok. Yet another question about bulbs!

I have a 4 x 24W (Tek retro) setup on a 29 gallon. My bulbs are currently;

Front
Aquablue
Actinic +
GE Sun
Actinic +

I like the dusk dawn color but I don't like the color when all the bulbs are on, it looks too washed out. I am replacing bulbs soon so I was thinking of going with:

Front
Super Actinic (maybe aquablue instead)
Blue +
Aquablue
Blue +

Would that be a good combo? I am also thinking about getting an IceCap 660 ballast to overdrive the bulbs. I know I would lose the dusk, dawn effect but I want to start getting some SPS and maybe a clam. Thanks for the input.

If you don't mind a Bluish look try this
Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9319120#post9319120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
Unfortunatly they didn't pick you out a great selection of lamps.

Do this

Front
Aquablue
Super Actinic
Aquasun
Blue Plus
Actinic White

That should help color a lot. You will also have a nice dusk/dawn look with lamp 2&4.

If your retrofit T5 lamps aren/t too old you should get some good intensity with that mix.

As far as brightness T5's don't break in. I would be amazed if the T5's arent putting more intensity that the PC's. The 2 96 watt PC's and 2 T5's is pretty bright. I don't think you will need to acclimate anything.

Grim, thanks for the help. Switched the bulbs and dusk/dawn looks much better. I still question the total brightness of the tank, still looks dim to me. Am I now supposed to have enough light for some stonies (monti cap) and a clam? Even up top it doesn't look bright enough. Think I'll replace the 2 older T5's from my retro light that you had me put in the new light. For some reason I thought the T5's would make the tank look like a beacon in the night. That UVL aquasun sure puts out a lot of red.
 
Ok, so I've been reading about t5s on here for about an hour now and I've got a lot of good information that makes me feel comfortable going with t5s over mh. I haven't neccessarily read every post in detail, but in skimming I haven't come across a recommended combination for a tank similar to mine. So, I am brand new to the hobby... a noob of 1 1/2 months but I know what I have and what I would like. I have an acrylic 110g 60Lx24Dx18W flat back hex aquarium with two 36" pcs. I know the pcs aren't going to produce enough light to support many different types of soft corals. I'm looking for a recommendation on a T5 setup to best accomodate my setup. a to the point answer on fixture and bulb combination would be much appreciated. I'm looking forward to learning and growing as a reef tank enthusiast with you all. thanks a lot.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9324629#post9324629 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
If you don't mind a Bluish look try this
Front
Blue Plus
Super Actinic
UVL Aquasun
Blue Plus

Thanks Grim. Actually I like a bluish look. Do you think I will get much more light by switching ballasts from the triads to the Ice Cap 660?
 
Hey Grim et al.

What lighting combo would look best with SPS

Pick from Dual 250 Watt MH's on IC ballast and 80 watt (48in) T5's on IC 660 ballast

Be specific with brands and SE or DE bulbs

Thanks A Bunch
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9323706#post9323706 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tigga
Okay Grim I ended making a decision and will be going for the Sunlight Supply 24" 2x24W Tek Retrofit System.

I have to choices to buy it from, however it seems both choices look different. Here are two places I'm choosing b/w:


http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/store_pages/details/l-fl-retro2.php?product_ID=sl-t5tret24

http://www.reefperfection.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=418


the thing is that the one from reefperfection looks more advanced with its advertised description of having the new & improved Tek II 96% reflective T5 reflectors which jlaquatics does not state

Also the two pictures look different too.



Order through reefgeek. What they label as Tek retros really aren't.

Which one should I buy?

SLS upgraded the reflectors but then started using Workhorse ballasts. Reefgeek doesn't really sell Tek retrofits even though the label them as such, they make them from bulk parts. Check with them because they plan on using the new Tek reflectors but will continue to include the Triad ballasts. I wouldn't buy Workhorse ballasts for T5 lights.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9325097#post9325097 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lightning716
Ok, so I've been reading about t5s on here for about an hour now and I've got a lot of good information that makes me feel comfortable going with t5s over mh. I haven't neccessarily read every post in detail, but in skimming I haven't come across a recommended combination for a tank similar to mine. So, I am brand new to the hobby... a noob of 1 1/2 months but I know what I have and what I would like. I have an acrylic 110g 60Lx24Dx18W flat back hex aquarium with two 36" pcs. I know the pcs aren't going to produce enough light to support many different types of soft corals. I'm looking for a recommendation on a T5 setup to best accomodate my setup. a to the point answer on fixture and bulb combination would be much appreciated. I'm looking forward to learning and growing as a reef tank enthusiast with you all. thanks a lot.

I would probably wait for the ATI powermodules to hit the states and hang a 6x54 watt unit over the tank. I would run 3 blue plus, 1 Aquablue, 1 Super Actinic and 1 Aquasun lamp to start.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9325512#post9325512 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bond007069
Hey Grim et al.

What lighting combo would look best with SPS

Pick from Dual 250 Watt MH's on IC ballast and 80 watt (48in) T5's on IC 660 ballast

Be specific with brands and SE or DE bulbs

Thanks A Bunch

You talking MH & T5's?

2 250 watt 10K XM's in PFO Mini pendants 2 ATI Blue Plus T5s, 2 UVL Super Actinic T5's.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9325109#post9325109 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by emoore
Thanks Grim. Actually I like a bluish look. Do you think I will get much more light by switching ballasts from the triads to the Ice Cap 660?
You pick up about 35% more light with the IC ballast.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9325734#post9325734 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by The Grim Reefer
SLS upgraded the reflectors but then started using Workhorse ballasts. Reefgeek doesn't really sell Tek retrofits even though the label them as such, they make them from bulk parts. Check with them because they plan on using the new Tek reflectors but will continue to include the Triad ballasts. I wouldn't buy Workhorse ballasts for T5 lights.


So which one should I buy? From reef perfection or jlaquatics. I have no intention on buying from reefgeek
 
Hey Grim-

I previously ordered a FM Ultra Solaris based on your recommendation, but I put the order on hold after you posted your test results. I have been waiting to see if AO posts any response/explanation to the test results, but I have not seen anything, and the post about the ultrasolaris in AO's sponsor's section has mysteriously disappeared.

So, my question is, should I follow through with the order despite the results, or go with something else?

I have a 120 and was looking for an "easy" retro to put in a canopy. I'm not totally inept, so I can probably wire an easy retro, but liked the idea of a packaged system.

What would you recommend now? See what FM's response is, or go with something else. I am not in a hurry, as I am still setting up the tank.

Again, I appreciate the help.

Thanks,
 
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