The Ultimate Aggressive Experiment
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Grouperhead
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Sonicblast12
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Ok, I'll take one tonight.
Hopefully it's a feeding video.
Might need a new avatar now that I sold back both undy's.
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Sonicblast12
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I'd say this a good start, 3mm NLS pellets were the first offering tonight.
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ALMOST! Maybe some garlic and Selcon and this fight will be over in the first round. Ate some of the Formula 2 flakes again but was a bit camera shy and would only eat with me peeking around the corner.
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ALMOST! Maybe some garlic and Selcon and this fight will be over in the first round. Ate some of the Formula 2 flakes again but was a bit camera shy and would only eat with me peeking around the corner.
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tanksfishtank
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Video is awesome and that is a gorgeous fish! Good Luck!
Sonicblast12
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Bit of a step backwards, but I think it was my fault. Rearranged the rocks and added a big PVC elbow so the angel has somewhere to hide and sleep. So it was a little freaked out and didn't show much interest in food tonight, I should have fed before sticking my arm in the tank and moving things around.
The tank is now at hyposalinity.
Watching it ignore food is stressful. I really don't want to kill this fish.
The tank is now at hyposalinity.
Watching it ignore food is stressful. I really don't want to kill this fish.
Lazylivin
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Get some live brine shrimp and put them in a container. Add some phyto and selcon and let the brine feed for a couple hours. Adding air would help keep it in suspension. After two hours pour the container with brine in a net, rinse and then put it your tank. This will allow him to get some food while you are training on pellets and other prepared foods.
Sonicblast12
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What's interesting is that both of my Regals are more receptive to flake and pellets than they are to frozen, and I've tried about six different kinds of frozen.
My Indo Pacific Regal has been in QT for about three weeks, barely eats any frozen but eats flake pretty well and hammers pellets.
My Indo Pacific Regal has been in QT for about three weeks, barely eats any frozen but eats flake pretty well and hammers pellets.
Sonicblast12
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Tonight the Regal ignored 3 MM NLS pellets, ignored 2 MM NLS pellets, ignored frozen squid, sampled one Formula 2 flake (discouraging), but ate a few Omega One pellets that I had in my freezer. Tossed them in on a whim because I've had some fish that prefer those, and the Regal was picking them off of the surface. Ate a couple as they sank, but really was searching the top of the tank.
Can anyone recommend any good floating pellets, maybe a bit on the larger side? I think that might be a winner.
Because of the flow and the bare bottom, I always get a little "pellet tornado" that forms in a certain spot in the tank, and I think the fish eats out of that pile when I'm not looking. I've seen the Regal go for the pile and then stop as if it knows it is being watched, but they do seem to disappear after a short amount of time. I know some are being kicked up into the filter and some are disintegrating, but that Regal is hovers over the spot when I'm in the other room but I have yet to see it take a bite.
Can anyone recommend any good floating pellets, maybe a bit on the larger side? I think that might be a winner.
Because of the flow and the bare bottom, I always get a little "pellet tornado" that forms in a certain spot in the tank, and I think the fish eats out of that pile when I'm not looking. I've seen the Regal go for the pile and then stop as if it knows it is being watched, but they do seem to disappear after a short amount of time. I know some are being kicked up into the filter and some are disintegrating, but that Regal is hovers over the spot when I'm in the other room but I have yet to see it take a bite.
geaux xman
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try some PE mysis with Selcon.
Sonicblast12
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Regal figured out how to pick pellets off the bottom and is heartily eating a mixture of NLS, Hikari Marine-A, and Omega One. It's also doing a pretty good job beating back the ich, only been at hypo for a couple of days but is almost clear of parasites.
I'm super pumped.
I'm super pumped.
Sonicblast12
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The Regal was terrified of the PVC so I built it a little hut out of 6" flooring tile, likes that much better. What I'm currently feeding is a mussel cracked in half, filled with a variety of pellets and then soaked in Selcon.
Some new residents moved into the QT. A nice looking potters, and a female flame. That gives me two females and a male and I'll attempt to form a harem in one of my tanks after the new girl comes out of QT.
Some new residents moved into the QT. A nice looking potters, and a female flame. That gives me two females and a male and I'll attempt to form a harem in one of my tanks after the new girl comes out of QT.
Sonicblast12
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That's not an insignificant point, I probably shouldn't have glossed over it.
Over time I've figured out that less is more, and it's easier to acclimate your water to their water before you even get the fish home. There really shouldn't be any impulse buys, if you see a fish you like go home, do research and have a plan for acclimation and housing that fish. Easier said than done, I'm as guilty of impulse buys as anyone but I'm getting better. But having a plan for each individual fish has really increased my success with all fish, especially angels.
Acclimation is critical, especially when small angelfish are involved. Less time spent in toxic water, less time in a stressful acclimation setting. Most of the time I temperature match and hand place the fish in the tank because I don't usually add fish to a tank at 1.009, I'll start quarantine at 1.020 adjust down later if it's necessary.
These were shipment fish so the goal there is to get them out of that water as soon as possible, but you can't just dump the fish into a tank with a SG swing that large. Actually you probably could and everything would be fine, but I wouldn't want to chance that.
I pre-mixed a five gallon bucket to 1.020 with a few small pieces of live rock and left a powerhead in to circulate. Floated the sealed bags for a few minutes to temperature acclimate, then cut the bags and hand transferred the fish to the bucket. This works well for shipment fish because an adjustment to 1.020 is almost always on the way down but isn't a huge shock to the system. I covered the bucket and left them there for about a half hour to adjust to that change, then discarded half the water in the bucket and began to drip down to hyposalinity. That took a couple of hours and was a good excuse to perform a water change.
Both dwarfs were behaving normally after about an hour in the tank, picking rock and darting around. The flame ate a ton of mysis, the potters was skeptical as it picked the rock. Potters eating Formula 2 flake like crazy on day two which is noteworthy.
Somehow the Regal is able to distinguish between NLS pellets and Hikari pellets and is only eating Hikari now, but I'm glad to be getting calories in the fish however I can get them. Was picking at the mussels before but is now eating the whole thing, I came home to a bare broken shell tonight. Eating more and more every day, but still won't even sample frozen. Neither will my Indo Pacific Regal. I don't get it. Grey belly was eating pellets after six days, yellow belly after five...but no frozen.
But I'll take two pellet eating Regals any day.
Over time I've figured out that less is more, and it's easier to acclimate your water to their water before you even get the fish home. There really shouldn't be any impulse buys, if you see a fish you like go home, do research and have a plan for acclimation and housing that fish. Easier said than done, I'm as guilty of impulse buys as anyone but I'm getting better. But having a plan for each individual fish has really increased my success with all fish, especially angels.
Acclimation is critical, especially when small angelfish are involved. Less time spent in toxic water, less time in a stressful acclimation setting. Most of the time I temperature match and hand place the fish in the tank because I don't usually add fish to a tank at 1.009, I'll start quarantine at 1.020 adjust down later if it's necessary.
These were shipment fish so the goal there is to get them out of that water as soon as possible, but you can't just dump the fish into a tank with a SG swing that large. Actually you probably could and everything would be fine, but I wouldn't want to chance that.
I pre-mixed a five gallon bucket to 1.020 with a few small pieces of live rock and left a powerhead in to circulate. Floated the sealed bags for a few minutes to temperature acclimate, then cut the bags and hand transferred the fish to the bucket. This works well for shipment fish because an adjustment to 1.020 is almost always on the way down but isn't a huge shock to the system. I covered the bucket and left them there for about a half hour to adjust to that change, then discarded half the water in the bucket and began to drip down to hyposalinity. That took a couple of hours and was a good excuse to perform a water change.
Both dwarfs were behaving normally after about an hour in the tank, picking rock and darting around. The flame ate a ton of mysis, the potters was skeptical as it picked the rock. Potters eating Formula 2 flake like crazy on day two which is noteworthy.
Somehow the Regal is able to distinguish between NLS pellets and Hikari pellets and is only eating Hikari now, but I'm glad to be getting calories in the fish however I can get them. Was picking at the mussels before but is now eating the whole thing, I came home to a bare broken shell tonight. Eating more and more every day, but still won't even sample frozen. Neither will my Indo Pacific Regal. I don't get it. Grey belly was eating pellets after six days, yellow belly after five...but no frozen.
But I'll take two pellet eating Regals any day.
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Both of my Regals are doing fantastic, the large Red Sea Regal is now eating great. I have a pretty cool video I'll post later tonight of it eating the large NLS pellets almost right out of my hand. It became a different fish when it started eating aggressively a few days ago. Looks a lot "brighter" in every sense of the word.
Here's the video:
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I can't really get the Potter's going, it's getting some nutrition because it's creating a lot of waste but isn't interested in doing anything other than pick rock at this point.
My Indo Pacific Regal was moved out of QT into my angelfish growout tank with a Flame Angel, Coral Beauty, Golden Angel, Flameback Angel, Juvi Emperor Angel, and a tiny Majestic Angel. Oh, and a six line wrasse that I can't catch. All of the angels are less than 3", the Regal is the largest at about 4". I have a blast watching this tank, it sits right behind my laptop and next to the TV. They all get along and hang out in the same places. I think it would be a different story if there were only two of them, but as a group it works...for now. The only thing, I can't get the lymphocystis out of this tank. It spreads like wildfire. That poor little golden angel has had a little crown of lymph for months!
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Here's the video:
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I can't really get the Potter's going, it's getting some nutrition because it's creating a lot of waste but isn't interested in doing anything other than pick rock at this point.
My Indo Pacific Regal was moved out of QT into my angelfish growout tank with a Flame Angel, Coral Beauty, Golden Angel, Flameback Angel, Juvi Emperor Angel, and a tiny Majestic Angel. Oh, and a six line wrasse that I can't catch. All of the angels are less than 3", the Regal is the largest at about 4". I have a blast watching this tank, it sits right behind my laptop and next to the TV. They all get along and hang out in the same places. I think it would be a different story if there were only two of them, but as a group it works...for now. The only thing, I can't get the lymphocystis out of this tank. It spreads like wildfire. That poor little golden angel has had a little crown of lymph for months!
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Grouperhead
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That might be the nicest flameback I've seen.
Sonicblast12
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It's a fat one. The flameback is the most aggressive fish in that tank. I thought I was going to have to remove it before it calmed down after a week. It was giving the flame angel quite a beating and took a pretty good bite from the golden's tail.
