Things to EXPECT after cycle...and what to do.

Sk8r

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1. A green tint on rock or/and sand leading to green fuzz, leading to hair algae: this is, yes, hair algae---and this is from the phosphate in rock and sand dissolving out. It takes a while to dissolve rock, even in salt water, so expect this to go on a while. YOUR ANSWER: a gfo reactor, a fairly cheap cylinder that mixes water with granulated ferrous oxide, which absorbs the phosphate and starves out this particular breed of algae. It won't affect your cheatomorpha in the fuge.

2. a babypoo brown blush on your sand: diatoms. THis is almost inevitable. Time, and not overfeeding, elimination of phosphate, cleaning the sandbed (nassarius snails do this) and generally patience, good chemistry and good habits, like always using ro/di and having a good skimmer going.

3. a dark red (color of dried blood) stain on sandbed, or a dark sheet with air bubbles---cyanobacteria---a periodic pest in most tanks, but no big deal: it harms things mostly by depriving them of light. Turn out your tank lights for 3 days, do this once a month until the problem leaves---and keep your skimmer operating well. If you have corals, do a 4th day of blues only. Then resume normal lighting schedule. Do this once a month. Nothing eats this stuff. But you can clean up your tank by a general practice of good chemistry.

4. bubble algae often follows cyano---and again, nothing eats it enough to matter unless you have a 3 gallon nano. In a large tank, fahgeddabowdit. Just be patient and keep up your water quality. Eventually it goes away on its own.

5. appearance of small white dots or spirals or spikes---just one of those odd creatures that distinguishes marine rock. SOme people with zoas worry about them. Those with lps can pretty well ignore them. Some fish think the little worms that make them are delicious.

6. bristleworms. THese are good guys, even essential to a healthy tank. If you have too many, don't kill the worms! they're saving your tank from a hyper-nutriented mess. They'll die back when the food supply runs out. the only bad worm you're apt to meet is not distinguished by bristles, but by a set of tentacles on its head---tiny tentacles: that's a eunicid, and that guy should go. There's a completely harmless worm that has long, long wavy tentacles like an octopus, and another that pokes a trunklike tentacle out of rocks: good guys---spaghetti worm and peanut worm.

7. hitch hiker crabs: if hairy or if one claw is distinctly mean-looking, put them (or their rock) in the sump: helpful down there, but they'll not be good reef citizens.

8. white puffy stuff or slimy film: nutrient excess: watch your feeding. 'Tune' your skimmer's efficiency. Remember---your fish may ACT hungry: they're like cats and dogs in that respect. But remember BREATHING is more important than eating.

9. coralline: if you have an acrylic tank, don't be too enthusiastic about having it: it's a pita to get off acrylic, where you can't use a razor. An old credit card makes a good scraper. It's a good thing on the rock, where it lends color. If you do want it, keep your magnesium somewhere between 1300 and 1500 and of course, have one bit of corallined rock, and a decent supply of calcium. I use Oceanic salt, which is high in both, and I have to beat coralline back with a stick. Even my snails are going pink.

10. never expect a cleanup crew to do anything but poo into the sandbed to keep its bacteria strong. They do NOT clean algae worth a darn. The name is highly misleading. What they are is an 'undertaker' squad---if you lose a fish, you will rarely find it. Ever. They will munch it, poo it, and it will disappear into the sandbed as minute particles of snail and crab poo, and reappear as a few bubbles of nitrogen gas headed for the surface, as the sand bacteria works. A good cycled tank is biologically 'hot' enough to dispose of a fish within 24 hours if it goes down. A marine reef never has fish belly-up and floating: they're down, the snails arrive, and the crabs, and there is no more fish in pretty short order. THAT's why they're called a cleanup crew.
 
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I think Sk8r deserves yet another collective thank you from us. She has written many posts that are always full of good info, written in a fashion that any and all can grasp.

Thank you
 
Sk8r, you are the Sticky writer!! Just when I think that I know something, your presentation creates a thorough and (more) COMPLETE picture on the topic.
THANK YOU!!!!

BTW, have you considered compiling these into a BOOK?? -Not a encyclopedia on reefing but a collection of short stories about this and that. . . . Well, I am making a 3-ring binder reference collection of these for myself. . . . Thanks!
 
Just say I've started quite a few tanks in a fairly mobile life---first one, I was about 6 or 7. Fascinated by two little cory cats at the feed store. If my dad lost track of me he knew right where to find me---only aquarium I'd ever seen in my life.

Next birthday---he presented me a 5 gallon Metaframe and promised me 2 cory cats. My mom added 6 zebrafish. And I was hooked. I cleaned it, aged the water, I'd do anything for that tank, and it was a good, long-lived tank. ;)
 
Sounds like how quite a few of us get bitten by the aquarium hobby.

Another great newbie post explain in simple terms how certain things happen, and what certain things are in a new aquarium.

I second the "book" of newbie knowledge from all your stickies. :thumbsup: I know I for one, have learned way more from your stickies then just wandering the internet for information.
 
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The best favor you can do for yourself is to familiarize yourself with 'water issues.' Use ro/di, to start with 'zeroed out' water. Then read the label on your salt mix. Read the reviews. And understand whether it's for reef---or for fish-only. IF you set up with fish-only and now want a reef, that's ok---easy fix. Change salts. But in the meanwhile, get the alkalinity buffer, calcium, and magnesium tests and supplements (I use Salifert tests on those 3, and Kent supplements) and just set about adjusting the water.

You do your water changes as recommended and expect that until stony coral starts 'eating' you won't have calcium issues; but you do need to watch that alkalinity, which is THE most important reading outside of salinity and temperature for a marine tank.

Just watch the alk and keep it at about 8.3. If you have fish-only or softie corals, you don't really need more calcium because neither type uses it fast. But even if you don't need the supplement, having and running the test is a good thing, because these three are closely connected, chemically, and if your alk tanks---you have to look at the other 2 to fix it and get it to stay fixed. That triple balance is the key to good water. With it, everything's got what it needs as long as oxygenation is good (your skimmer is huge in that regard) and light is good for what you've got, and salinity and temperature stay in line. That's the whole ball game, those readings: salinity, temperature, alkalinity, calcium, magnesium. Ultimately you might want a PO4 test (phosphate) but if you have algae under control, you probably won't have a phosphate issue. I keep a reasonable set of good readings in my sig line, for general convenience, and the sooner you can hit and hold those, whether for fish or reef, the better. Nitrate and ammonia diminish as issues for reefs in general: my corals' behavior tells me if something's wrong: if ever my hammer coral was tucked up I'd be running to test the water and fixing it. Fish aren't so demonstrative. They keep swimming until conditions are not good, so test their water on a regular schedule, particularly, because they don't show bad conditions until they're really in trouble. Corals pitch a snit like the Princess and the Pea, and tuck down and act unhappy, which sounds as if they'd be hard---but that feature means you get an early warning to fix those three things, and you fix them, and bad things don't happen.
 
10. never expect a cleanup crew to do anything but poo into the sandbed to keep its bacteria strong. They do NOT clean algae worth a darn. The name is highly misleading. What they are is an 'undertaker' squad---if you lose a fish, you will rarely find it. Ever. They will munch it, poo it, and it will disappear into the sandbed as minute particles of snail and crab poo, and reappear as a few bubbles of nitrogen gas headed for the surface, as the sand bacteria works. A good cycled tank is biologically 'hot' enough to dispose of a fish within 24 hours if it goes down. A marine reef never has fish belly-up and floating: they're down, the snails arrive, and the crabs, and there is no more fish in pretty short order. THAT's why they're called a cleanup crew.

I had expected cleanup crews to help with leftover food, if any. I have even been dropping a few pellets in once in a while until I put fish in the main tank with them. Is this incorrect?
 
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