This LFS is sad

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I was out looking at something work related and came across a store but it was horrible. It's on the corner of Laclede Station Rd. and Watson just down the street from Tropical World Pets. I stopped in to see if they had saltwater fish and was shocked. Dead fish, dead corals, dead inverts, and others. I have been to all the LFS in the area but have only bought from Gateway (mostly) and CPE (before I found Gateway) but am I wrong.
 
I know which one you are referring to. I'm not going to drop names here, It's a rather large place and does sell more than just SW or FW. They do have a fair amount of dry goods too. I've never found any of there SW displays or "live" stuff in very good conditions. I'm not sure why that is thou. I would have to say no, your not wrong, It's not very pretty in that area and it is :(
 
That place is a shame. Everytime I have went in there in Dec and this month all the Saltwater tanks on the right wall have Cynobacteria. The fish don't look healthy. I guess it would help to install some lighting in the ceiling and over the tanks, maybe then I could see if they are alive or not. Its really dark in their "SW fish room" and they never have corals for sale just for display. It looks as though they are harvesting Aiptasia with their corals. They do have a nice variety of freshwater fish that I look for (rainbows, loaches). I'm finished ranting now.

Ryan
 
PetMarketPlace is really bad. Not only are all the fish dead withing a few days the worst thing is they don't even try to fix it. All of the dry goods are overpriced by about 20% compared to Tropical World just down the street. Tim the sales manager will sell you a seaclone skimmer and tell you it is the greatest thing in the world....

On the other hand I bought my African lion rabbit from them and that bunny is funny. Love the little guy.
 
I used to shop there for freshwater stuff all the time, it has gone down hill in the last 6 months or so. I think they stopped stocking stuff because they weren't doing a lot of business, and they drove all their regular customers away because they never got in any new product. Catch 22.
 
That place is huge (rent)and really doest look to be dedicated to fish unfortunately they were a great place to buy FW fish but there SW was really never up to par with the local competition.

They probubly need a nice in flux of cash ie. a new partner to help turn things around .

I haven't been there in a long time I got the impression of old tank syndrome out of the hole department last time i was
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9110540#post9110540 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stlouisguy
I thought it was against the rules to bash a LFS

You're right Clark!

Folks, if you have something negative to say about any vendor please keep it in reference to your personal experiences with that vendor please. I don't think there is a place in town that I have not seen dead fish at and unfortunately, dead fish are a part of the hobby.

If you had a bad experience with something purchased from a vendor feel free to relate it but just to speak bad of one does no one any good.
 
Good point their Clark. Thank you for reminding us capncapo.
I was wrong to bash and I apologize for my rude and outlandish behavior.

Stupidsreef.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9112343#post9112343 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by latazyo
can't get sued when its true

Where have you been Leighton? You can get sued for anything...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9112424#post9112424 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zt444a
Where have you been Leighton? You can get sued for anything...

One of the guys who helped make our site use to run a car import forum and got hosed by a local car shop and went online to complain about it.

They tried to sue him for 2 million $$$
 
I have never been to this store, I have heard these type comments from others about it since I have been on RC since Dec 2005.

Here is my question: The authorities raid Puppy Mills, private homes with abused horses, homes overrun with 100s of sick and dying cats, etc .....

If a pet store had sick and dying puppies, cats, birds - they would be shutdown and the owners/workers would probably be charges with cruelty to animals Why are fish and corals looked at with less regard?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9112831#post9112831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hobbes8017
I have never been to this store, I have heard these type comments from others about it since I have been on RC since Dec 2005.

Here is my question: The authorities raid Puppy Mills, private homes with abused horses, homes overrun with 100s of sick and dying cats, etc .....

If a pet store had sick and dying puppies, cats, birds - they would be shutdown and the owners/workers would probably be charges with cruelty to animals Why are fish and corals looked at with less regard?

You know, thats a good point. The problem is three fold

1. Fish arent cute and cuddly (to most people)
2. You cant just take them to a humane society to get better
3. They cant tell a sick fish from a healthy one

Its also tough to crack down on a species that is also in our food chain.
 
Like Greg said, we are not here to slam our LFS. Some are better than others, some are worse. Some have great customer service, some have none whatsoever. We have a pretty powerful voice here on this forum, but we are only a very small percentage of the LFS traffic that is seen...perhaps 25% at the greatest is my guess.

The way we change things in a LFS that is not using sound husbandry is by letting them know what we think when we are there, or by not patronizing them with our hard-earned dollars.

It is tough to resist "saving" a soon-to-be dying coral or fish that should have never been imported in the first place, but letting it die in the store that bought it lets them eat the loss and not us....it also might encourage them not to order it again in the future.

One thing I would like to see in every LFS is a date of when the fish came into the store, so you can have some idea of how it is doing in captivity. If you buy them right after a shipment comes in and it dies, then that kind of defeats the purpose of a LFS. I hope to buy fish from LFS that are healthy, or I could just buy them online. It is nice to know that it has been there for 2-3 weeks and is eating, looking good, etc. before I buy it.

Like Greg said, all LFS are going to have sick and/or dying fish, that is the nature of the business. But, we all know when a store is not up to snuff or could be doing something better. Sometimes the best thing might be to talk with the owner and let them know that things are amiss, sometimes they don't listen and it is time to take your money somewhere else.
 
Good points Dave.

One thing some of the stores will do is you can reserve a fish, to see if it will survive and be eating when you get it. Andy's does that, he has held fish for me for a week or more to make sure it doesnt die from the travels.
 
Please don't say anything negative about the great and almighty pet stores in the area. We wouldn't want any unsuspecting reef central members to quit spending there hard earned money there. It is much better to only say good things and talk about sales and specials to help promote the LFS. Who cares about the consumer anyway what do they know?? Plese go buy some diseased dying fish from your local LFS, maybe they will even give you a club discount.

Kevin
 
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