Tips for people setting up a large tank for the first time

Minhle100

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I wanted to post a thread and just have some of you guys that have large tanks post some of the issues that you came across in getting your tanks setup. I for one am in the planning stage and would love to hear from you all on some of the things that you had problems with.

Thanks guys for the help and the input.
 
Save a lot of many before starting your project. When I started my project I under estimated the cost of building such a big tank. I end up using my open equity loan to cover some of the expenses.
 
My tank: low iron glass, (starfire), sequence pumps (quiet, low electric), extra tunze, Ocean motion (out of Canada) 400 watt metal halide. one for every 18" squares. Remote sump in basement. (if I spill a little water so what) Water change tank 125 gal. Do not skimp on live rock add at least somewhere in the system 1 to 1.5 lbs per tank vol not total. Buy the rock online, you can find it for around 2.25 shipped from Fl, cheaper for your location.

Do not put any starpolyps or Xenia in the tank!! Unless that is what you want to keep.

Be prepared to change 10% of the water weekly.

I like kalk bucket better than a reactor.
Oversize your ca reactor.
Buy a bubbleking skimmer or deltec.
Phosban, carbon.

Just some thoughts.

Good luck

Ed
 
Also the tank came from Aquariumsforyou. They really make a nice furniture grade stand. My 400 gal delivered was 9k. Dry it weighed 1200lb plus stand. Not too bad, you can find them cheaper.
 
Always keep electrical consumption and cost in mind when doing your purchasing and planning. For instance, consider T5 lighting instead of metal halide. A lot of people are going that route now. Use the most efficient pumps, and keep replacement parts on hand.
Don't skimp. A large tank is a large commitment. If you buy better quality, (usually more expensive) you make out in the long run. You don't want your skimmer pump, or your powerhead to fail when you have a 400 gallon tank full of livestock.
 
Try incorporating natural lighting such as Solatubes if you can. Electrical consumption is inevitable, so choose your equipments wisely.
This hobby is great but also can be financialy burden at times.
So I would suggest, do not skimp on your equipments...do it right the first time and avoid cutting corners. If you are a DIY type person, it is a big plus on your part and could save you lots of cash along the way.
Good luck!
 
Plan plan plan plan plan. Know exactly what you want and set goals.

I have been posting my progress but I didn't really get into the way I aquired all the equipment or the duration that I collected for.

Since I knew exactly what I was going to want out of my tank I aquired alot of equipment even before I had the tank. Things like recirc pumps, heaters, chillers, ro units, etc can all be aquired piece by piece so that when you get your tank you will be ready to set it up.

As mentioned above you should take into account power consumption and how much each piece of equipment will cost you in electricity.

I would also start collecting live rock for your large tank, that way you can get all your scaping done in one go.

These are just a few things that I did when planning and collecting for my tank. Good luck to you and happy reefing!

Louis
 
Study lots of tanks before you start. Have backups for everything crucial. My skimmer has 2 pumps, but will run on 1, and my LFS stocks these pumps. My sump return and 2 closed loops all use the same pump and my LFS has that pump also.
I second the idea of getting a good estimate on monthly electrical costs. I've seen some reefers bail out after a few electric bills.
 
Never start any plumbing projects (like returns or remote sumps) when the hardware store is closed.

You always forgot something! Trust me. Oh and you can't have enough true union ball valves. 1 before and after everything!
 
Quarantine everything that goes into your new display, 45 days minimum. Ask me how I know.

slowly add you critters. BE PATIENT!

Now...do as I say, not as I do.
 
this is some great advise. i've looked through every page of the large tanks section and it is great but again most of the threads just talk about the setup and not the problems. Or the end result not being what that person planned. those are the things that i wanted to hear...
 
how big is the tank your planning? If we know the size of tank your project will be we can give better advice on what equipment and right size to use.
 
Biggest differences I'll say.

Plan for acess. Getting access to al parts of the tank must be planned

Plan for humidity. Evaporating a gallon or two a day is no biggie. Move up to 10 or more and there are issues you need to deal with.

Plan for water changes. They are events in big tanks. Planning here will take the headache out.

Have a fish room. It's very helpful to be able to slosh water around and hide all your sumps and noisy pumps, etc somewhere out of sight and isolated form the house.


Calcium reactor or kalk stirrer is a must. 2 part becomes insane to dose.
 
Once you get over 200 gallons, youre in a whole nother world. The under tank sump and filtration is possible, but maintenance and access becomes a larger factor relative to efficency or cost savings.

In no particular order - except the order I thought of them in....


#1 dedicated electric circuits
I have 2x15A. I wish I had 4x20A


#2 backup for power outage
APS Powerverter at a minimum
Gas generator preferrably
At the very minimum, plan to run an air pump on a PC backup APS and bubble air to keep the water oxygenated. It's even better to keep the main circulation and heat on.


#3 humidity control
Either a vent fan on a controller, or an air exchanger. Dehumidifiers work, but add too much heat in the summer.


#4 have a sump room of at least 75 sq ft
I do something new every year and appreciate my 150 sq ft sump room. When I want a new 120 gallon fuge, or 72x24x10 frag tray, or a new monster skimmer, or a dedicated fish food & beer fridge, or a fragging workstation, or new monster skimmer... you get the idea...


#5 Train someone else to take care of it
Teaching my dad how to do general maintenance and what problems to look for has saved the day a few times when I've been out of town.


#6 Keep is simple
The first go round, I was searching for every new techie toy to make the Uber-efficient tank. It works a lot easier if you start with a simple balanced system and add the techie stuff later. It also gives you a basis for comparison...
Fictitous example: my tank ran great on the old euroreef with the caulerpa refugium. Now with the bubbleking and phosban and caulerpa, it's actually harder to maintain because of X, Y, Z.

I still don't use my controller to the complex level I had originally planned. All said I'd be happy with a few independant pH controllers and an ORP monitor.

Using a controller for lights is iffy when you get over 1000W. I prefer to seperate my lighting across circuits, and use outdoor rated mechanical timers - even after trying the cool shutoff and restart features on the more advanced controllers (I've had Aquatronica and Neptune).


#7 Plan to expand
OK, that's kinda the flip side of #6. Keep it simple, but plan that you'll add all kinds of crap. The best way to do this, IMO, is to create a header on the pump and on the drain line back to the sump.

I now have about eight 1/2" outlets and two 1" outlets on my main pump all with ball valves. The 1" are for the main tank. The 1/2" are for other tanks or devices (refugia, frag trays, Ca reactor feed, Skimmer feed, etc) I currently have 5 spare lines, but will soon be down to 3.

I have the same deal with my drain lines back to the sump, but 2 are 1.25" from the tank, and the rest are 1". All with ball valves.


#8 Go slow
They say nothing good happens quickly in a reef tank. Whoever they are, they're usually right. So whenever you do a significant change, try to phase it in. Talk to anyone who dumped a pound of ROWA Phos into a reactor.

This also goes for adding livestock. Just because you have a ton of rock does not mean the bacterial colonies can instantly adjust to 10 big fish + feedings or adding 50 frags at once.


#9 QUARRANTINE
Possibly the most important. Especially on a large tank. I have myrionemia species hydroids because I was impatient and didn't quarrantine a few frags. It started as a few small bits of hydroid runners that I didn't see on the frag plugs - now it's a pain in the arse.
 
I will be setting up a big tank soon hopefully, 240-300g. You guys have a lot of fancy stuff in your tanks, expensive equipment; ca reactors, wavemakers etc etc. I am only having a FOWLR tank. I am going to have 3-4 large angels, no corals (at least expensive ones, maybe some softies if they don't get eaten). What do I need besides good water flow and skimming? I shouldn't need anything crazy like you guys have on your reef tanks? Just a thought since not everyone sets up huge reef tanks, I like the fish more then the corals. I do have a smaller reef, but that will never get bigger then a 125g tank, I hope! But input would be nice on large FOWLR tanks, thanks!
 
Well I am setting up a new 210. The number one thing I have been doing is looking at power consumption, as well as adding as many easy backup functions as possiable. I am also planning for the amount of maintaince that the tank will required. trying too make them as easy as possiable. I want to enjoy it more than have to break my back working on it all the time!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9493252#post9493252 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by marinelife
Go 240V Ballast for your lights, I did this for my new tank. As everyone said plan plan plan

Why would you want to go with 240V?

-Chris
 
Instead of pulling 5 amps for the ballast I am only pulling 1.67amps. I can run all 3 lights for about the same cost as one of my old ballast. Plus I only need one circuit, because one 20amp circuit can handle all 3
 
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