Tonight's topic: DIY additives

neuroslicer

Old School Reefer
At tonight's meeting we discussed adding calcium, carbonate ions, and magnesium with DIY solutions. One source of information discussed was the recipes posted by Randy Holmes Farley on Reef Central. Here's that link:

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/index.php

A matter of concern was voiced about the impurities of the Dowflake calcium chloride flakes, made by Dow Chemicals, and sold by Buckeyefield Supply. These flakes are sold as ~77% Calcium chloride, mainly because the remaining 23% is mostly water. Still, Farley has written an article that suggests that there are very slight traces of a variety of metals and ions in Dowflake calcium, but these same impurities are also found in calcium supplements from Kent, ESV, and other aquarium companies. Here's his article on calcium purity:


http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/mar2004/chem.htm

And here are two links that present info on Magflakes (made by Dead Sea Works) and their chemical analysis:

http://www.pioneermagnesia.com/products_applications_specifications.htm

http://www.bostonreefers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3568


The following link lists many articles on water chemistry, including a discussion of the DIY recipe for kalkwasser or 2 part Calcium/alkalinity recipe, and the DIY recipe for chelated iron that I gave away tonight.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102605

Of course if what you're doing now is working for you, than don't fix something that's not broke. But if you find yourself needing to add more supplements such as calcium or alkalinity, and you're comfortable mixing up some of your own solutions, it can be a fun way to save a few bucks, which of course will then be spent on more critters or high tech gadgetry!

I enjoyed talking with you all tonight!
Jay
 
Jay thanks for your hospitality and all the great information.
I want to thank the club for the door prize ($500.00 gift certificate to Kermits)
What an awsome club!!!!!!!
 
Yeah, and with over 10 door prizes I think everybody left with something! Even Cathy, and she NEVER wins anything!
 
Thanks, Jay!

Great meeting! Great information! Great hospitality!

And yes ... the door prize was great. Amazing how it helps to get your name in the the drawing bowl.

:rollface:
 
yeah, yeah. "Thank's Jay", "Had a great time", blah blah blah. If yall wanted to show your appreciation you would have taken food home with you. That poor family had to toss food out of the back door!
Actually, it was really nice and I always like going to Jay's house. So much fun stuff to get into! Jay, did you find "Misfits of Science" yet?
By my count we had about 13 people there. Pretty keen considering Halloween and all. Jay did a great talk and has got me looking into making my own stuff again. I have the Word and Excel handouts he passed out if anyone is interested in having a copy. I really like that he cut all the "tech" out of the many articles on DIY additives and just gave us the good stuff (formula's and supply names). As was said before, Cathy went home with the PC retro and Andy took the Ocean's motion's GC for $25. Jay added to the draw with some Wage's Pickling Lime, Fe+ additive, and syringes for dripping and aptasia killin'. Cathy also came in with 3 corals for drawing. Kevin barnes took the neon green sarcophyton, Teena won the Orange Cap, and our newest member Jason got the star polyps. We had Pig and Whistle BBQ and some really tasty snacks of bell pepper's and cream cheese.
Club business:
Cathy Peck is our new Secretary
November meeting is up for grabs (needing a host)
December meeting will be December 2nd at Foxridge Pizza on Germantown Rd. This is the Christmas Party so there will be no official discussions, just a big old get-together. Members and family are invited. Food will be paid for as will soft drinks and the like. Alcohol will be on an "on your own" basis. Sorry folks. They have a small arcade for the kids and a large "meeting" room that we will have. Come one, come all!
 
I forgot. We also discussed getting a tank or two into some local schools again. I have a lead that i'll be following up on. If anyone has a child in school, or is a teacher, please contact me about letting WTMRAC set up a mini reef tank in the classroom to stimulate class discussion and interest in the ocean and its inhabitants.
Thanks,
Barrett "It's good to be the king." Shumaker
WTMRAC President Elect
 
Yes Barrett, I found a set of Misfits of Science on 4 DVDs... but the quality is only a 7.5 or so out of 10. It was authored from a set of beta video tapes made almost 20 years ago. Brimstone, on the other hand, is a solid 8.5 to 9 out of 10... in case anyyone else is wondering what the heck, that's my other hobby:

www.geocities.com/neuroslicer/list.html

neuroslicer@yahoo.com

I actually did throw the food out the back door, considering that the freezer is in the barn in the back yard!

And thanks to my wife Lettie who prepared all the appetizers!

Jay
 
Sorry I missed another great meeting!

Sorry I missed another great meeting!

It sounds like everyone had a great time. I, hopefully, will see everyone at the next meeting (?in Jackson?).

I spoke with my daughter's principal (Dr. Butler) at Sycamore Elementary School here in Collierville and she was very excited about the club visiting. We spoke several months ago about this and she asked that we let her know when and we'd coordinate with the science teacher(s). I would love to help! How many schools are we looking into visiting?

Cass
 
ok Jay
so with the kalkwasser, you mix, let stand to settle, then dose for a mixed reef tank approx how much per gallon ?
 
dependes on the calcium uptake of the tank, I was doing 3 liters of kalk for a 90...(before I got lazy and started using a two part {but I intent to get back to being less lazy since kalk it is SOOOOO much beter than})
 
yes, it depends on how much ca or alk you're down. for my 65 gallon, i'd add 1 liter in the early am one 1 liter in the late pm. be sure to drip in in slowly; calcium hydroxide is pretty basic! I would check to see what your cal and alk levels are, add 1 - 2 liters, and check it again. then see how much ca and alk your tank uses up in a day (or 2 days if you've got less sps).
Jay
 
I realize amounts will vary and I was just looking for a starting point that might be close. With this volume amount added daily do you have to perform any RO top off?
I would assume that your dosing is sufficient to equalize evaporation
 
Hey, I'm in Idaho. Sounds like you've got a great club over there. Wish I were local so I could join. Best wishes to you. :)
 
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