Total Loss

pewter_jean

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Well after all the losses last week, I was hoping things were settleing down. I haven't loss any fish since Friday. But it looks like I may not be so lucky.
Even after doing 30 to 40 gallon water changes, everyday or two. It looks like round two is about to start.
After the first round I was down to about 6 fish,
Tonight when I feed them, I noticed that most of them look to have a whiteish film starting to cover them. Their eyes are cloudy, and the tomato clown is covered with white spots. The sailfin tang is covered with the same film and has black (pepper) spots. The flagfin angel is covered with the white film, no spots yet. The longspine cardinal, who always was fairly active in the tank, now is just sitting in the corner, he didn't even come up to eat. The film is on him also, just not as bad. The cherub angel, and the diamond gobie look good so far, no film and the eyes are clear. But don't know what tomorrow will bring. There is no way to catch these guys, too much rock work for them to hind in, and I am afriad if I keep chasing these guys around the stess would for sure do them in. So I have come to the conclusion that I have to sit and wait for it to run it's corse.
So I guess I have to ask the next question, What is the next step after this has finished everything off, and is done running amock.
Will I need to drain the tank, and scrub everything down, to restart the tank? Or will I have to wait for the system to break down the junk in there, and rebuild itself up, basically recycle itself. I realize that, that will take a few months, I really don't have a problem with that,, gives me time to decide and research this next setup, I am thinking along to lines of reef with only gobies, blennies.
Oh, will what ever this crap is in my tank, will it effect my corals, I do have to say, my hammer is looking very happy, must be all the nitrates in the water.
 
If it's just a parasite then it'll die when all the fish die. I'd let it sit for about a month or 2 before I add anything. Just continue with weekly water changes

Then again I have no real experience with this though.
 
Kind of along the lines that I was thinking, but I too, am unsure it is only a parasite, or maybe more than one.
I don't know if all of the parasite will die off when all host (fish) are gone.
Do some of these type of parasite host on inverts or corals?
And if it is normal, run of the mill parasites, and they will die off when no host are left, then will they all die off. So after a few months and recycleing the tank, nothing should be left to restart this. That would be my biggest concern. It is not easy to break down a 180 gal tank, and scrub everything.

Have to leave for work now, hopfully I will have lots of answers tomorrow morning.

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
 
Most parasites are species-specific, so what your fish have is unlikely to affect your coral and inverts. I would do water changes when the tank is empty to dilute/remove whatever is killing your fish. I would also suggest running lots of carbon just to be on the safe side. I feel really bad for you Rena, I hope things start looking up for you :)
 
Thanks, Chelsey,
Last week (after this started) I refilled the XP3 with all carbon, and I picked up a large bag of carbon Thursday at Gateways sale, I put the whole bag in the sump, I am not sure how much is enough, I am hoping that is.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8367859#post8367859 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dert42
have you tried any fish immune boosting stuff?

And/or any reef-safe medicines? You can dose antibiotics, for example, but certain kinds will work on certain kinds of bacterial infections, so you need at least a guess at the disease. Have you tried getting a diagnosis, maybe in the Reef Fishes or Fish Disease Treatment forums? Do you have any pics?
 
Oh! I completely forgot! I gave Steve some liquid metronidazole, a parasite killer that will take care of almost anything. You just put a tiny bit on their flake food and let it sit for a few, then feed the tank. You can use that as a precaution for your next round of fish if you can't get it before these guys are gone :(
 
i think i have the powder metronidazole.
i put it on shrimp and let it soak in.
i do it about once a week.
 
Well I belive I am down to two maybe three. This morning when I came home from work and feed the tank, nobody came to eat.
The sailfin just sat there and looked at the food and turned to go into the rock, the longspime cardinal just looked at it like he didn't even know what it was. No one else even showed up. Usually they all are right there begging and telling me I am not putting it in fast enough. But this morning no one, not one ate. Just got up a few minutes ago, and still now one is out and about. I can't find the Flagfin angle, cinimon tomato at all, not the slightest hint they were ever in that tank, Can a clean up crew of just a few snails and a coupld of cleaner shrimp make two fish, one very large and there other not to small disappear in less that 12 hours? In fact, all the fish always disapear. I have only been able to find the bodies of three of the fish that died (disapeared)? To me, it seems aweful quick, especially for these guys that should still be full from the other fish? I've considered the ideal that there is something else in there, but I don't think so, Most of this rock i've had for over 4 years, and the rest i've had for around a year. If there were any mantis's, big mean crab, ect. I probly should have seen it well before now.
 
I'm sorry Rena :( I think that your cleanup crew, combined with your bacteria, could make pretty quick work of whatever is left of your fish. Also, they sometimes just go into the rocks and die so they might be wedged in between some stuff. Hope something lives for you :(
 
I had a nasty case of Marine Velvet a few years ago. At least that's what it looked like to me from the pictures. That is an really tough one because it lives for almost three months in an empty tank. I had to just let it sit. Has alot of the symotoms you talked about. Good luck and sorry for the tough times.
 
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