transferring to a new tank with ICH problems some advice would be awsome

[evoque335i]

Will where do i start i been reefing for 7 month now still a big noobie at this. i started from a 35 now 55 now getting ready for 135. here is the problems to this situation in the progress of setting up the new 135, currently running the 55g. just found out that my royal gramma have ich . no i did not QT him that was my own mistake because it was given to me now i am in a deep situation would love some advice . currenly have 11 fish 1 baby yellow tang (yes 55g is small but i was planning to upgrade)2 clown ,1 stripe cardinal , 1 rainford goby ,royal gramma,2 chromis,1 bicolor angel,1 cleaner wrasse(got him for the ich),1 yellow wrasse,1 firefish.so here's my plan ,all my fish is doing great beside the royal gramma. but the all eat like a pig still i do mix it with garlic and ginger on day 5 with herbtana . yes all this a myths but then i do see some improvement on the royal grammas and it got my cleaner wrasse to eat. yes ich still will always remaind in the tanks unless i leave my tanks fallow .but now planning to transfer all my corals and rocks plus invert small bit of sand to my new 135 , yes i know they will or mite have ich on the LR or snails. i do understand the cycles of the ich i am planning to transfer all to my 135 and leave it fallow for 2 months . now back to the 55g i was planning to treat cuppramine, here's my question 1. do i have to take all the sand out ( sand will not be reused since i am buying new for the 135) its hard to take all sand out with 11 fish plus more stress on them.2. the new 135 will go through a small cycles will that hurt my corals or its better to cycle the tank first before transfer and doing copper 3. so all those fish i listed are they compatible for cuppramine 4. the 55g is currenly running with a 20g refuge now since my 135 will be all corals and invert for 9 weeks will it be ok to run a HOB till the 55g is done with the cuppramine treatment . i wanna do this right so whats the best way to do it,the royal G been having ich for the last 5 days no other fish seem stress or change no sign of ich on them cant get him out try fish trap he's is just too fast. what is your thoughts please share advice l would be gladly accepted put your self in my shoe what would you do.:beer:

 

[WLachnit]

Moving everything to your 135g and leaving it fallow for 2 1/2 months should be fine. You should not really experience a cycle and a hob filter should be ok provided you do periodic water changes.

As for the fish in the 55g, cupramine concentrations in the water will be affected by the sand, IIRC. You could temporarily move the fish to buckets, and pull out the sand, then put fish back in the 55g and treat. Personally, I am a big advocate of TTM. It is a lot easier on the fish.

 

[evoque335i]

Moving everything to your 135g and leaving it fallow for 2 1/2 months should be fine. You should not really experience a cycle and a hob filter should be ok provided you do periodic water changes.

As for the fish in the 55g, cupramine concentrations in the water will be affected by the sand, IIRC. You could temporarily move the fish to buckets, and pull out the sand, then put fish back in the 55g and treat. Personally, I am a big advocate of TTM. It is a lot easier on the fish.

i been doing research on the TTM method its more safe but my other tank is only a 10G stuffing all 11 fish in there wouldn't that cause more stress on the fish then Cuppramine.did though about pulling sand and put all in a 10G tank but would the stress be lethal since i moving all LR and corals now chasing fish would that be too much stress on fish would they be harm more then help.TTM with a small tank back and ford to the 55g would that be fatal to 11 fish what's my best option here cannot put another container in the house with 2-3 tank running out of space and Torrance by wife more detail would be great

 

[kmbyrnes]

I am also a HUGE proponent of TTM. I have 2 5g tanks, but buckets work just as well.
One option is to leave everything alone in the 55 while the 135 lays fallow. Then do TTM on small groups of fish over time and add them to the 135 as they complete the TTM process.
No need for copper and the constant testing to keep levels at the required concentration.