Treat or euthanize? Extreme body rot

HClH2OFish

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Hi all,

Our beloved bow-tie damsel, Priscilla, has come down with the most virulent case of fin/body rot I've ever heard of and I need info. She is 8-9 years old and about 4-5" long. Her tail has completely fallen off and she has lost approx. 1/2" of her body area in a semicircle by where her tail was. Imagine taking a bite out of a fish and that's what her back end looks like, to the point of her spine being exposed with some ribs. I need to know if my fish has any chance of recovering or if I should euthanize her. Here's the reason I haven't taken that route already - she isn't showing any major signs of distress other than not eating. She is still swimming just fine, comes out and interacts with me when I come by, her color is still fine, no red/bloody streaks as normally associated with fin rot. Today I noticed the exposed skin has darkened in color and the exposed spine appears to have fallen/dissolved/broken away. Approx. 1/8-1/4" is still exposed.

Tank data -

20g saltwater tank, Tetra filter, approx. 25lb live rock, 1/8"-1/4" sand bottom. Setup since August of 2009 (live rock approx. 7-8 years - all stock/rocks xferred from Phoenix to Annapolis, MD via RV in Rubbermaid containers with airstones)

50-75% water changes are done with PetCo Real Ocean approx. once a month. Top offs done with distilled water as needed. Glass top on tank, 20" Coralife light.

Only one fish - 9 year old bow-tie Damsel. Other inhabitants - Mushroom coral (5-6" dia) small patches of bubble algae, various anemones (likely aipstasia) from 1/4" to 1-1/2"

My fiancee discovered on Sunday that our damsel looked like her tail had been chewed. She had been fine just that Friday - neither of us noticed anything amiss with her when we fed her in the morning or when we got home from work (she likes seeing what's going on in the kitchen when we feed our dogs) I checked and her entire tail, including about 1/2 inch of her body looked translucent white and 'dissolved looking' for want of a better word. Almost like tapioca, but pure white. Her tail was almost completely disconnected and hanging by a small amount of flesh.

I immediately performed a 90-95% water change, including removal/cleaning of all live rock in tank water (shook the rocks out and sprayed down with turkey baster to remove detritus) Unfortunately none of the pet stores had Maracyn or Maracyn II so I began dosing with Lifeguard and Melafix. Oh, I did discover that her heater appeared to be functioning intermittently - I replaced it with a 50w heater at this time.

The next day her tail had fallen off completely but it didn't appear the affected area was spreading. I have continued the Lifeguard dosing, and reduced the amount of Melafix)

I received my Maracyn and Maracyn II today and immediately began dosing with this (today was last day for Lifeguard) I also received Finquel in case we need to euthanize her.

So....am I kidding myself with continuing treatment? Is it possible for her to even recover when her skeleton was/is exposed? I've found zero information online regarding body rot of this type or this extreme and what I have found is only relating to goldfish or bettas.

And please - if I've done anything wrong with this tank, please keep the flames to a minimum. I'll gladly answer any criticism but right now we're interested in the well-being of our fish.
 
OMG, somebody please chime in to help this poor little fish. Sorry, I don't know anything about medicine to help you.
 
I just posted a bunch to my website, along with 2 videos. From some of the camera views it appears that there are issues with her lateral line, but from the side you can't see them. I don't know if they're just camera effects due to the angle and the flash. The yellowish tinge is from the Maracyn treatments - spots on tank are salt on the outside (I haven't cleaned the outer glass since the water change)

Please note - she's dark and her fins are up because I turned the light on and woke her up..this is how she normally looks at night.

http://photos.codeofthewalrus.com

Oh, there are no issues with her eye - she never had one. My fiancee picked her out of a school - she was the runt and getting hassled by tankmates. She only had one eye and her tail fin was 1/2 gone. I didn't want to purchase her as I didn't think she'd make it...plus I'd never had saltwater tanks before. Her tail recovered and grew back but her eye didn't - that's why she's solo in the tank.
 
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Honestly, I would euthanize. I don't see how she can come back from that. My condolences.

+1. I think the disease is too far out and would euthanize the fish too. I'm sorry...

Think positively that the damsel has lived a good life in your care for 9 years!
 
Sorry to see her in that condition. I wouldn't know what to do, but knowing myself, I'd try to nurse her and not give up hope (even with only a 1% chance of surviving). If she somehow becomes enticed to eat and the condition seems to "stabilize" (ie not get worse), I'd maintain small hope. Otherwise, you've truly done your best, as she's lived a great 9 years.
 
Hey all, thought I'd drop a line of thanks to all who responded with the kind words.
The awesome news is that Priscilla is recovering/recovered! I was ready to euthanize, but due to her not showing any other signs of distress aside from a lowered appetite I decided one more last ditch effort.
I did a 95% water change - continued treatment with one pack per day of Maracyn and Maracyn II. Also added one capful twoce a day of Melafix. Did this for one week. Her condition never got worse - the lateral line 'spots' appear to have been camera effects since I never saw them on her again.

I also got the Kent Garlic xtreme to assist with her appetite. Added one drop directly to the water and another drop over her fish cubes to help thaw them. We saw an immediate increase in her appetite - where she had been sort of listless with her food, now she'd go after it if we dropped it near her.
Did another 95% about 5 days later - she continued to improve. Continued the last dosages of Maracyn I and II (used the entire box, believe it was 16) and reduced Melafix to once per day. Her wound showed clear signs of closing up and she now was coming out more during her morning feedings. Her appetite returned and she has been doing fine ever since. Did one more large water change after the Maracyn I and II and she's now swimming in pristine water (btw, I do water changes with PetCo ocean water)

So, I'm thinking with the frequent water changes along with the Maracyn I and II in combination, whatever she had was able to be knocked down. She's eating like a little pig again and amazingly enough she's still swimming around with as much skill as before! I'm amazed at the resiliency of this little gal. I know damsels are known to be hardy but nothing like this!

I'll try and get some newer pics of her posted up to the site so anyone interested can check her out.
 
Amazing story, you should be proud.

Its easy to say "euthanize" as its a fish, if it was a dog or a cat you would do everything in your power to keep it alive, as far as i am concerned, a living animal is a living animal regardless of the brain function of more intelligent animals.

Its why i object to the word "hobby" in fishkeeping, keeping living animals is NOT a hobby, its a way of life that you can get great enjoyment from.

My 2c anyway, again, very well done :)
 
Glad to hear it! I would love to see some "after" pics of the fish. Maracyn 1 & 2 contain good antibiotics, even though they can sometimes be slow acting. It's really cool that you went all out for this fish instead of just looking at the bottom line and deciding it wasn't worth the cost/hassle. We need more like you in this hobby!
 
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