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[ScooterGuitar]

Figure I;ll keep a running record here, might help others in the near future...
20g QT
a few small pieces of LR and LR rubble from DT for a solid bacteria bed...this rock will only ever be in this QT.
HOB power filter with sponge and floss from DT.
two heaters to ensure no issues.
PVC pieces for hiding.

I added 1 mL of Cupramine to tank (recommended is 1mL per 10.5g), the clown is showing signs of ich, velvet, or brook. He is eating well and breathing normal. Been in my DT for over 3 weeks now.

Shortly I will catch him, dip using collander and two bowls, into Paraguard bath...will monitor stress.
Will rinse quickly after Paraguard dip in DT water once again, then into QT with same parameters.

I will slowly lower salinity over the next few weeks.
I will slowly up the Cupramine.

 

[ScooterGuitar]

He/she did great with the Paraguard dip!
I did just under a gallon of DT water and 2.5 mL of Paraguard (dose is 3mL per g, wanted to play it safer) and ran an airstone, and small heater. Really calm in there. About 15-20 mins in it got a little frantic for about 3 mins, then went back to normal clown behavior. Was in the dip for about 70 minutes.
Mixed DT and QT water in another bowl, placed collander in there for a few mins, then into the QT with the small does of Cupramine.
Within 10 minutes I tried feeding and it was eating.

My ?...the QT is in a room with ample sunlight coming through, then room lighting and Christmas tree lighting right next to the tank:>) Good enough for light?

I placed a small clump Chaeto in there too, just trying to make the QT/Hospital as comfy as I can.

 

[mille239]

It is recommended that you either treat with copper, or hyposalinity, but not both. good luck with the clown!

 

[wooden_reefer]

a few small pieces of LR and LR rubble from DT for a solid bacteria bed...

How did you make sure that there is enough nitrification in the LR rubble and big pieces?

Big LR pieces in QT, even if you don't plan to use them in DT, have the disadvantage that they are not as easy to set aside when you have to take them out from QT, when you have to use a drug that will harm nitrifiaction bacteria.

LR rubble likely will not have this disadvantage.

Any LR used in QT should not already have worms or such developed on it.

I prefer a medium that can be packed well into a power filter and also taken out easily when you have to use a drug that harms nitrification bacteria.

 

[ScooterGuitar]

Thanks for the input.
I am not going to go hypno, just lowering down a few from my DT's.
The LR was in my well established DT for 5 years. I am also using packed filter floss from my DT and establishing some bioballs for a WC. How long before those balls should be good enough to have some benefit?

This AM the fish looked horrible, ugh. Covered in ich! I was certain it might not last the day.
I added the other half of the initial dose of Cupramine, got home and no signs of ich! Swimming and eating! Whew.
No clue if what I'm doing is preferred, but I believe in doing what I can to ensure the saftey and comfort of the inhabitant.

 

[wooden_reefer]

The LR was in my well established DT for 5 years. I am also using packed filter floss from my DT and establishing some bioballs for a WC. How long before those balls should be good enough to have some benefit?

Nitrification in QT is not a mystery at all. Whether taking some medium in DT of 5 years will be enough depends on high much bioload the DT carries vs. the bioload you plan in QT, and the fraction of medium in DT you remove. Unintended medium for mirobial growth in DT will be a factor as well. You may be removing a lower fraction than you think.

To be sure, it is best to boost the nitrification in any medium by having it process some ammonia in a separate container without livestock. Otherwise, nitrification in QT can be too marginal.

 

[ScooterGuitar]

Would adding MB7 help in QT? I don't mind the exspense if it can only help.
But, would it interefere with copper?

 

[ScooterGuitar]

The clown is doing wonderful today! I am up to 3/4 the doseage of cupramine.

 

[ScooterGuitar]

Bump for today, clown is doing great still!