"TTM" using single tank and cupramine

[artieg]

Explain to me why this wouldn't work? Raise copper to therapeutic level and leave there for 12 days. Then, move fish to a clean QT for observation, and sterilize the old copper treated tank for future use.

The recommended 30 day period for cupramine is based on what is required to kill the cysts permanently in the QT, but if you move the fish and break it down, you don't care about the cysts. Right? Wouldn't it be better for long term health of the fish to avoid 30 days in copper?

How in the world can TTM work if the protocol above does not? Am I missing something?

Thanks! This hobby is a second job sometimes...

 

[scuzy]

"TTM" using single tank and cupramine

"TTM" using single tank and cupramine

Then it's not called ttm is it? You're not transferring the fish. Also copper may not kill the ich parasite at one go.


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[lagatbezan]

Explain to me why this wouldn't work? Raise copper to therapeutic level and leave there for 12 days. Then, move fish to a clean QT for observation, and sterilize the old copper treated tank for future use.

The recommended 30 day period for cupramine is based on what is required to kill the cysts permanently in the QT, but if you move the fish and break it down, you don't care about the cysts. Right? Wouldn't it be better for long term health of the fish to avoid 30 days in copper?

How in the world can TTM work if the protocol above does not? Am I missing something?

Thanks! This hobby is a second job sometimes...

Yes, it should work but I would do a minimum of 14 days. You will need to make sure that the copper level stays constant at the therapeutic level the entire time. Also no equipment can be transferred from the first tank to the second. Only the fish. setup the second tank at least 10' away. Observe the fish for 4 weeks in the new tank before introducing to your DT.

 

[artieg]

That is why I put "TTM" in brackets. One tank, but same theory: you're not trying to rid the tank of ich (which takes 30 days in copper), you are only trying to rid the fish, and the copper prevents the full life cycle from running and reinfesting the fish.

Yes, all caveats about maintaining therapeutic levels of copper. And all caveats about "there could be crazy mutant strains of ich that can't be killed by copper".

In short: if you are willing to rely on the efficacy of copper at therapeutic levels, would this not work, as a shorter way to ensure a fish (but not the treatment tank) is free from the parasite?