Tunze Wavebox 6215

[Mudbeaver]

Ok i'm in the desing process of a tank system and i just relented my closed loop plans to a Tunze Wavebox 6215 . My tank 140 G will be 72"x24"x19" high, am i going to have to add more flow than the return or am i going to be ok. I've seen the Tunze Wavebox 6215 in action in a 6' X3' tank and it was amazing the flow. But i'm concern anyway. The reason i wanted a closed loop is tha my tank will be a Starphire and i'm told that magnets leave dents in the glass so no powerheads for this tank you see... The return will be handle by a Quietone 3000 with a Y comming from the overflow box in the middle of the tank where the Herbie will be . The box will be round about 10" in diameter the back of the tank being clear for the Tunze . So do you think i need another flow source other than this?

 

[rvitko]

In very few cases do we recommend wave flow only. The reason is that the wave type flow is directionless, it rocks back and forth and suspends detritus, etc, but it mostly hovers in place. A directional current is needed to transport that waste as well as food. Factoring head pressure and elbows, the return pump flow will be closer to half of what it is rated for and that is likely not enough. I would start with a pair of prop pumps, they can be weaker and don't need to be controllable when used with a wavebox but in general I would get a decent directional current and then worry about wave flow which I would mainly consider an adjunct to good flow and not a sole source. About the only time I would consider wavebox only is with anemones or non photosynthetic corals.

 

[Mudbeaver]

In very few cases do we recommend wave flow only. The reason is that the wave type flow is directionless, it rocks back and forth and suspends detritus, etc, but it mostly hovers in place. A directional current is needed to transport that waste as well as food. Factoring head pressure and elbows, the return pump flow will be closer to half of what it is rated for and that is likely not enough. I would start with a pair of prop pumps, they can be weaker and don't need to be controllable when used with a wavebox but in general I would get a decent directional current and then worry about wave flow which I would mainly consider an adjunct to good flow and not a sole source. About the only time I would consider wavebox only is with anemones or non photosynthetic corals.

This my problem, i'm setting up a new system, and wanted a closed loop system because i wanted anemone in my tank. I've traded my closed loop design to eliminate lots of pluming and holes and a noisy pump, for the Tunze in the hope i wouldn't need power head since my tank is starphire and magnets leave dents in the glass. Now i'm back to square one .I was very impressed with it i saw it in action at my LFS and was sold on the idea. But how do people keep anemone with powerheads these days.....

 

[rvitko]

If you could use a bigger pump for a closed loop, one that can deliver 1500 gph per outlet at the head pressure you will have, I think it can work. I have trouble believing a magnet can dent glass. In general once an anemone is settled and attached the pump pose minimal risk and the Stream Rocks would eliminate the magnet holder and the cover the pump inlet.

 

[Mudbeaver]

A set up

A set up

Ok well lets go all the way then with the wave box I've decided to go with a Tunze Turbelle NanoStream Controllable Pump 6095 paired with a Wave controller 7092 to compliment the set up. That way I should have a decent flow with the wave and a perfect control over them. Now my next issue is I want a rimless tank but with the wave maker I'm wondering if its wise to go rimless....

 

[rvitko]

Rimless is fine, you just need enough space from the waterline to the top of the tank and this will depend on the way the overflow is built. I would have at least 1.5".

 

[Mudbeaver]

Rimless is fine, you just need enough space from the waterline to the top of the tank and this will depend on the way the overflow is built. I would have at least 1.5".

Yes that's are size actually are return is 1" as well. The overflow is in the center of the tank and not on the back wall either but the center , center so the tunze box will be in the back wall doing its thing and the tunze power head 6095 on the opposite wall will create the circulation flow. The center box will probably be around 12 " to accommodate the 2 herbie pipes and the return.