Two days later...

conjuay

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I'm gonna hate putting fish in here! (you'll see why at the end)

I've had some problems (Panic attacks) since picking up my rock and sand on Wednesday.
Initially, I had good readings on ammonia, (0.4) then it jumped up on Thanksgiving. I changed out about 30%, but didn't see a change in the reading on my test kit. Today, I bought the Salifert ammonia test kit, and THAT test says everything is okay.

I bought a new pump/circulation setup, because I did buy the tank and system used,and had determined I was not getting enough flow. (The guy had burned out one pump, and substituted a weaker one in it's place) I had stopped initially to buy a power head from my LFS , but with the evaluation of all three of the guys who work there, we came to the conclusion that I was simply not turning over enough water.
So, there I am learning (seat of the pants) how to plumb an external pump that will turn over the tank 8 or 10 times an hour.
(Hell, Richard's live rock is worth it!)
Well, I had to quit and run the old pump until the plumbing supply opens again tomorrow, but that gave me a chance to sit in front of the tank.
I turned off all the lights in the area, and waited ten minutes. I have one of those super powerful LED flashlights, and put the RED cap from a spice jar in front of it to act as a red filter.

I'm sitting there watching a bristle worm stretch out and hunt, when all of a sudden a SHRIMP comes swimming by!

I expected crabs, and I reluctantly accepted that I might get a mantis shrimp in the package, but an actual REAL shrimp!
Now how am I supposed to put my fish into this tank, and put this little fellow in mortal danger?
(We bonded VERY quickly, as you can see)
I'm gonna have to keep my old tank set up as a refuge for all the neat things that are presently floating around a tank that is "cycling".
(I also had the family "Ohing and Ahing at the incredibly camoflauged sea cucumber I spotted.)

All kidding aside, turn all the lights off, and put a red filter on a flashlight, and go exploring. What a KICK!!!
Thanks, Richard.
 
What size is your tank? Love to see some pics. I have a Sony HD camcorder that has night vision, I'm going to try that tonight. :cool:

I noticed a snail shell laying on the sand, I think the gorilla crabs are having some midnight snacks. I've also setup a trap but the LFS ran out of mysis shrimp :( they also ran out of DT's phytoplankton :( in the meanwhile, I added two drops of Kent marine Phyto to try and keep the corals and other lifeforms happy.

This is very addicting. I'm contemplating on ordering up more live sand from Richard before getting my second shipment of Live Rock.

I took my wrasse out of the main tank because he likes to chew on snails so I may have to sell him to the LFS or give him away to a friend.

BTW I didn't make any water changes to my 65 gallon tank. Ammonia levels were always pretty low and at high noon today it went to zero :)
 
It's a hundred gallon "long".

I haven't noticed any gorilla crabs, but I do have a sea cucumber that matches 'his' rock so well I only noticed him because the rock changed shape!
It appears to be more of a filter feeder than a sand shifter, he remains on the rock and hasn't ventured near the sand.
BUT...
I am starting to feel pressured by my family. I told them what was behind the "clicking noise" we keep hearing. Now, whenever anyone hears it, they look at me with that accusing look that says, "You wimp! Go in there and GET THAT Shrimp , TOUGH GUY!!!"
 
My cucumber is doing the same thing! Just hanging on the rock and moving around very slooooowly.


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11249946#post11249946 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by conjuay
It's a hundred gallon "long".

I haven't noticed any gorilla crabs, but I do have a sea cucumber that matches 'his' rock so well I only noticed him because the rock changed shape!
It appears to be more of a filter feeder than a sand shifter, he remains on the rock and hasn't ventured near the sand.
BUT...
I am starting to feel pressured by my family. I told them what was behind the "clicking noise" we keep hearing. Now, whenever anyone hears it, they look at me with that accusing look that says, "You wimp! Go in there and GET THAT Shrimp , TOUGH GUY!!!"
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11249946#post11249946 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by conjuay


I am starting to feel pressured by my family. I told them what was behind the "clicking noise" we keep hearing. Now, whenever anyone hears it, they look at me with that accusing look that says, "You wimp! Go in there and GET THAT Shrimp , TOUGH GUY!!!"

I know what you mean, I thought getting the tank would be a great learning experience for my kids since we are to far from a ocean to see one. But I think I ruined them from ever wanting to go in the ocean if we did go see one.
Every time we watch a movie with someone in the ocean my kids say, I wouldn't walk on those rocks have you seen what's in Moms tank! :lol:
 
more hunting for hunters

more hunting for hunters

Is it safe to assume the 'Hairy' crabs are Gorilla crabs? I have one rock that is nothing but small holes. Every hole has a hairy little critter staring back at me. Many are very light colored, (just Molted?) but I do see two toned claws; dark tips.

If these are gorilla crabs, I've got the "Gorilla Ghetto" in my tank!!!

...and the mantis shrimp sounds like it's on the same rock....
I think there may be a rumble:p
 
Re: more hunting for hunters

Re: more hunting for hunters

Yup, it's safe to assume the hairy ones are bad ones and that the hairy ones you have are gorilla crabs. Just watch out for the good ones...that typically aren't hairy. I noticed my gorilla crab eating the coral and cutting the inhabitants on the LiveRock and eating them :(


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11264058#post11264058 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by conjuay
Is it safe to assume the 'Hairy' crabs are Gorilla crabs? I have one rock that is nothing but small holes. Every hole has a hairy little critter staring back at me. Many are very light colored, (just Molted?) but I do see two toned claws; dark tips.

If these are gorilla crabs, I've got the "Gorilla Ghetto" in my tank!!!

...and the mantis shrimp sounds like it's on the same rock....
I think there may be a rumble:p
 
You know, a fresh water dip for about 30 seconds will drive those gorilla crabs out of that rock in a hurry. You may suffer some collateral damage with other "good" inverts but if the rock is heavily populated with "bad" guys, it may be something you want to consider.

I've been chasing down little gorillas for months now. Where I can, I try to catch them and then I put them in the mantis tank!
 
Nope, can't do a freshwater dip... I'd lose a large orange sponge and worse- the lavender sponge that is growing into columns. I'll continue to play "tag" with the crabs.
 
Yeah, I've been playing 'tag' also. Got the big ones but I'm always coming across small ones, it seems. Most gorillas are now are 1/2" or smaller. Progress is slow, but forward.
 
Well I used a super saltwater solution to remove the bad guys and it mostly worked. I have a bucket with about 1.040 saltwater in it and when I spot the bad guys I dunk the rock in there. Of course they dont like it so they jump ship and are found in the bottom of the bucket.
Be careful when you do this as I have had 2 Octopus climb my arm until I put them into the mean tank ( I have a 20 gal just for Gorilla Crabs, Mantis, Damsels and Octopus ).
BTW does anyone know how big Gorillas get?
The hunt will always continue as I have fished out ( no pun intended ) over 7 mantis and 20 gorillas. I think that it will always continue.
Also if a gorilla or mantis wont leave and you see them in the rock put the rock over a different bucket and fill the hole with seltzer water but be very careful as it will kil other cool stuff on your rock.

Good luck reefing,
Steve
 
Well I used a super saltwater solution to remove the bad guys and it mostly worked. I have a bucket with about 1.040 saltwater in it and when I spot the bad guys I dunk the rock in there. Of course they dont like it so they jump ship and are found in the bottom of the bucket.
Be careful when you do this as I have had 2 Octopus climb my arm until I put them into the mean tank ( I have a 20 gal just for Gorilla Crabs, Mantis, Damsels and Octopus ).
BTW does anyone know how big Gorillas get?
The hunt will always continue as I have fished out ( no pun intended ) over 7 mantis and 20 gorillas. I think that it will always continue.
Also if a gorilla or mantis wont leave and you see them in the rock put the rock over a different bucket and fill the hole with seltzer water but be very careful as it will kill other cool stuff on your rock.

Good luck reefing,
Steve
 
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