Two week old post meta clowns dying

I am starting to think SFS (Sudden Fright Syndrome). If your BBS have not been fed phytoplankton or Selcon prior to feeding this is very plausable. It seems to be a much more common occurance with bangaii, but what you are describing sounds all too familiar.

The problem is actually a HUFA or OMEGA 3 deficency resulting in improper neuron/brain development. In medical terms... decreased myelination. It is said that this can cause a "short circuit" in the brain and you can actually watch the fish die from it. I witnessed a bangaii die from this while I was cleaning a growout tank a while back. Very quick and very obvious. I just don't know what the clownfish equivalent would look like.
 
Interesting idea, Atticus. Thank you for your thoughts.

By yesterday, they had not had bbs in 2 days. When I was feeding them bs, I only fed them newly hatched bs, so the shrimp would not be eating anything at that point. During feeding of the shrimp period, the larvae/juveniles also ate dried cyclopeeze and Ocean Nutrition formula 1. In addition, there were tons of well fed rotifers, on live phytoplankton, in the tank. For these reasons, I don't think it was an omega 3 deficiency.

I thought I was scaring them when this first started, but the yesterday's deaths were excessive, and I think, ammonia related. I was relying too heavily on the ammonia alert badge, and it was broken, steering me wrong. Hard way to learn this lesson.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6778292#post6778292 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Luis A M
You canÃ"šÃ‚´t have fish dying of anoxia without knowing.It is so obviously dramatic.Measuring O2 is complicated or expensive,much easier is to check the pH which falls down with CO2.
Open water circulation if for some reason you havenÃ"šÃ‚´t done it yet.
Check carefully your fish for fast breathing or skin lesions.

Thanks for your thoughts, Luis.
What do fish dying of anoxia look like?

I think putting them on the system water has turned this around. I'll know better when the lights come on. I am having a bit of insomnia tonight.

The fish that died looked absolutely perfect, under the microscope, with no lesions of any kind. My eyes are too old to tell how the live ones are breathing, even with reading glasses.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6782509#post6782509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kathy55g

Thanks for your thoughts, Luis.
What do fish dying of anoxia look like?

I think putting them on the system water has turned this around. I'll know better when the lights come on. I am having a bit of insomnia tonight.

The fish that died looked absolutely perfect, under the microscope, with no lesions of any kind. My eyes are too old to tell how the live ones are breathing, even with reading glasses.

Gasping desperately for oxygen.Very fast breathing.At last they lose equilibrium and fall to the bottom evidencing neurological damage.Nasty thing to see.

Use good light and a loupe (besides your glasses).Fish must be checked in their tank.
 
You can check C02 in the tank by collecting a sample of water, maybe a quart, from an affected tank, checking the pH, and then aerating the sample vigorously for a few hours to overnight. Check Ph again. If the pH jumps lets say from 7.6 or 7.8 to 8.0 or better, then you have carbon dioxide accumulation in the water.

Ed
 
Back
Top