valentini puffer white spots

[Rover88]

Yea that was my plan is to keep the rock in QT tank. OK, I'll start treating the clowns with Copper this weekend. Do I need to take out the carbon from the filters?

Yup.

Just follow the instructions on the bottle. Although I've been told to go 'slower' then their instructions. (If they say add 40 drops on day 1, add instead 20 drops then add 20 more the next day kind of thing). This helps build it up slower and gives the fish a more gradual time to adjust.

That being said, clownfish are hardy to copper. Mine barely reacted all to the copper in the tank, while some of the other fish got rather lethargic for a few days.

 

[shaginwagon13]

Get a cleaner shrimp [emoji1360] it’ll handle that ich real quick. It’s a scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp. It’ll probably save ur fish life


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That doesn't solve anything lol

I had Ich and used hypo in my main system when i first added fish to my system about a year ago. I was lucky and didn't have any inverts at the time so this was a viable option for me. I honestly have never had a puffer and not sure exactly what they can tolerate so that would be something you need to look into but hypo worked amazingly for me, and very honestly wasn't as difficult to do as people made it out.

 

[Tyler438]

That doesn't solve anything lol

I had Ich and used hypo in my main system when i first added fish to my system about a year ago. I was lucky and didn't have any inverts at the time so this was a viable option for me. I honestly have never had a puffer and not sure exactly what they can tolerate so that would be something you need to look into but hypo worked amazingly for me, and very honestly wasn't as difficult to do as people made it out.

Well, I lost the puffer, the coral beauty, and my blenny. The only thing left is my 2 clowns that are in QT. DT has 2 anemones, lots of turbo snails, 3 hermits, and a cleaner shrimp.

 

[Bill_Moorman]

Sorry to hear that. People who aren't into reefing don't understand how attached we are to our fish. "œIt's just a fish dude, but another..."

Best of luck with the treatment of the others!


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[shaginwagon13]

Well, I lost the puffer, the coral beauty, and my blenny. The only thing left is my 2 clowns that are in QT. DT has 2 anemones, lots of turbo snails, 3 hermits, and a cleaner shrimp.

Sorry to hear that.

Keep the clownfish in QT and treat with either hypo, copper or TTM for 90 days.

Your display tank is fallow of fish and if left like this for 90 days, the Ich will die as there are no hosts.

You can increase the temperature slightly in the display tank to 83 degrees. Slightly warmer water speeds up the life cycles of Ich. Colder waters around 78-77 degrees lengthens their life cycle which means there is more risk after 90 days that all the Ich will not yet be dead.

 

[Tyler438]

Sorry to hear that.

Keep the clownfish in QT and treat with either hypo, copper or TTM for 90 days.

Your display tank is fallow of fish and if left like this for 90 days, the Ich will die as there are no hosts.

You can increase the temperature slightly in the display tank to 83 degrees. Slightly warmer water speeds up the life cycles of Ich. Colder waters around 78-77 degrees lengthen their life cycle which means there is more risk after 90 days that all the Ich will not yet be dead.

DIsplay tank is holding at 80F, I started the copper treatment yesterday at 6 pm, Did a partial water change and tested the water before treatment. pH 8.3, Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, Nitrates 0. Feed them before the treatment and again around 10 pm when I checked on them before bed. As of this morning, they still look happy. Gave them some food and they ate just fine. I will give them a few misys shrimp tonight for dinner. One thing I noticed and I may just be crazy but their eyes look dilated, is this common?

 

[shaginwagon13]

DIsplay tank is holding at 80F, I started the copper treatment yesterday at 6 pm, Did a partial water change and tested the water before treatment. pH 8.3, Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, Nitrates 0. Feed them before the treatment and again around 10 pm when I checked on them before bed. As of this morning, they still look happy. Gave them some food and they ate just fine. I will give them a few misys shrimp tonight for dinner. One thing I noticed and I may just be crazy but their eyes look dilated, is this common?

I've honestly never used cooper treatment so I'm not entirely sure in regards to their eyes.

Did you add copper to your main display tank?

 

[Tyler438]

I've honestly never used cooper treatment so I'm not entirely sure in regards to their eyes.

Did you add copper to your main display tank?

No copper in display tank, just doing the 72 day fallow period. Treating clowns with copper in the qt tank.

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[Uncle99]

Eyes can look "glassy" may look swollen or somewhat closed, yup, normal, as the fish heals, this will go right back to normal.

While you have lost some fish, I (and likely the clowns) commend you for your efforts.

if they eat well, this is second most important to copper. High protein meaty foods like your doing is perfect.

Nice work.

 

[Tyler438]

Eyes can look "glassy" may look swollen or somewhat closed, yup, normal, as the fish heals, this will go right back to normal.

While you have lost some fish, I (and likely the clowns) commend you for your efforts.

if they eat well, this is second most important to copper. High protein meaty foods like your doing is perfect.

Nice work.

Did the 2nd dose Saturday, so far everything looks good. They are eating well and don't seem to be missing a beat. Copper treatment will be done on the 14th and they should be good to go. August 28th they should be good to go back in the tank at 72 days, or should I wait the 90 days as some have suggested?

 

[Bill_Moorman]

valentini puffer white spots

The new timeframe is 76 days.


https://www.*********.com/threads/ich-eradication-vs-ich-management.188775/

Edit: Had to change to the web url.

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[Uncle99]

The fallow time has to do with the percentage success rate to rid the DT of Ick.
So, in 60 days, the suggestion is that the success is about 85-90%.
In 72-78 days the success rate jumps to 99% success.
Anywhere in this period, in my opinion, and mostly all hobbists agree is the "safe period". Is 90 better? Is 100 better?. Where will this end? One thing for sure, the longer the better....but how much better....studies show not much.

You may want to (or maybe you already have) search this site and see what the majority says....I trust you will find 72-78 is the time most suggest.

If the fish is strong at 72-78.....back he/they go....

Keep up the good work, your on your way home....

And keep in mind....strong, well fed fish, high protein varied diets, living in a minimal stress environment is the best defense against Ick.

It attacks the weak.

 

[Tyler438]

The fallow time has to do with the percentage success rate to rid the DT of Ick.
So, in 60 days, the suggestion is that the success is about 85-90%.
In 72-78 days the success rate jumps to 99% success.
Anywhere in this period, in my opinion, and mostly all hobbists agree is the "safe period". Is 90 better? Is 100 better?. Where will this end? One thing for sure, the longer the better....but how much better....studies show not much.

You may want to (or maybe you already have) search this site and see what the majority says....I trust you will find 72-78 is the time most suggest.

If the fish is strong at 72-78.....back he/they go....

Keep up the good work, your on your way home....

And keep in mind....strong, well-fed fish, high protein varied diets, living in a minimal stress environment is the best defense against Ick.

It attacks the weak.

Ok thanks, I'll go with 90 days to be safe. The fish seem healthy and happy. They never once showed signs of ich. I finish the treatment and the 90-day fallow time before they go back in. Good news is my DT is getting cleaned up by the snails and shrimp without a load on it. May need to drop in a silverside or something to keep the CUC happy.