Vortech, Neptune, Gyre or ???

[ravedood]

I have a 125g long display tank. I currently have two first generation MP40w on each side of the tank. I am seeing a lot of dead spots where alage is growing. I feel the MP40s dont have the power they originally had. What would you guys suggest? Newer vortechs, apex wav, gyre or something form the jebao line. maybe there is something else in the market that is even better than these products. I am looking for power and something quite.

Thanks

 

[RedStangGA]

Maybe another MP40 on the back wall?

Kind of in the same predicament. I've read that the WAV's, while powerful, have a narrow stream. The gyre's, while they've come along way, still have too many complaints about needing to be cleaned often. And Vortechs, well they're just expensive lol! But they last a long time, have a wide flow pattern, and are extremely low maintenance.

I'm looking at Tunze and Rossmont as well due to their respective warranties. I won't consider Jebao's due to my own experience with their longevity.

 

[steallife904]

I have been running 2 xf150's almost 2 years and have only cleaned them 2 times... and by cleaning them all I did was drop them in a bucket of vinegar for a day then brushed them off and sprayed them really good. Work great! Love the flow of the gyres

 

[Higher Thinking]

I've been running a Gyre 150 on my SPS dominate 180 gallon. It's the only pump in the tank and I have massive acro colonies. Oh yeah, it's been in the tank for 18 months and I've never taken it out since first starting it up.

 

[ca1ore]

I'd think if the goal is to eliminate the most 'dead' spots that gyre flow would be the best option.

 

[MMacro]

I'd keep the two MP40s and throw a gyre on the back glass.
Put the MP40s on reef crest mode and it gives it a nice randomized flow pattern.

 

[ashish]

Does your tank have large overflow box? I have these issues in my current tank more so because of the 2 mega-overflows (120gallon). my flow pattern in my new set up which is a 42L X 26 W tank is as follow

Vortech mp40 X2 One on left panel, one of back panel towards right.
In addition, vectra return to Sea swirl on back panel toward left.

I am considering running the sea swirl with dual output so it can run down toward the rockwork.

I was considering the gyre but honestly I want everything to be controllable from Reeflink.

 

[ravedood]

i was thinking of two vortech mp60w and running them at a lower rate. i do have two large overflows. so you guys think the gyre with my existing mp40s?

 

[Potatohead]

i was thinking of two vortech mp60w and running them at a lower rate. i do have two large overflows. so you guys think the gyre with my existing mp40s?

If the money is not a concern I would replace the 40's with 60's and put the 40's on the back wall.

 

[out]

High thinker I'm running two f130 on my 125 gal. I seem to be getting little micro bubbles in my tank right by the gyres. Especially when their running in reverse or when they switch flow, I've cleaned them in vinegar over night and it still doesn't help. Any recommandation?


Tank info: 125 gal mixed LPS & SPS, simplicity skimmer, Hydra hd52's, Neptune apex, maxispect f130 sg 1.024-1.25 ph 8.3-8.4 78 f. 10 dkh

 

[Higher Thinking]

High thinker I'm running two f130 on my 125 gal. I seem to be getting little micro bubbles in my tank right by the gyres. Especially when their running in reverse or when they switch flow, I've cleaned them in vinegar over night and it still doesn't help. Any recommandation?


Tank info: 125 gal mixed LPS & SPS, simplicity skimmer, Hydra hd52's, Neptune apex, maxispect f130 sg 1.024-1.25 ph 8.3-8.4 78 f. 10 dkh

I don't want to hijack the OP's post, but I'll just say that air only comes from outside the water. So your gyre isn't creating air bubbles. They're either so close to the surface that agitation or a mini whirlpool is bringing air into the water from the surface or they're simply moving around bubbles that are already in the tank from protein skimmer or return. Just my couple pennies...

 

[ClownReef®]

I run two MP10s, A couple of Tunze Nanos and a Maxspect Gyre XF130, plus the return (Vectra M1) on my 65g. cube. I have zero dead spots.

 

[chercm]

it all depends on your scape . i prefer tunze as it allows me to point the wave. just get a main flow and use smaller ones to cover the dead zones

 

[out]

thanks

 

[Griff500]

I switched from two MP40QDs to two XF250 Gyres - very happy with the flow they create as it's indirect and seems to get everywhere.

 

[scar79]

i was thinking of two vortech mp60w and running them at a lower rate. i do have two large overflows. so you guys think the gyre with my existing mp40s?

If you don't need to sell the 40's to fund the 60's, this would be a killer setup with the 40's on the back wall.

Gyres really move water. two xf150s (or whatever they call them now) would also do a great job.

I have two neptune WAVs which replaced two MP-40s. They are quieter and require less maintenance (and never come out of alignment), but have a much larger in tank profile and produce a narrower flow profile. They sit on the back wall of my 135 (48"x24") and a gyre 150 sits on one side wall. If I was buying new, I'd go with the MP-40 QDs over the WAVs

 

[ravedood]

So I am leaning more towards these Gyre pumps. What setup (Make, model, number of units) and layout would you guys recommend for my tank. I have two overflows in the back so its not once straight piece of glass. I would like to control them with my Apex if possible.

 

[Potatohead]

So I am leaning more towards these Gyre pumps. What setup (Make, model, number of units) and layout would you guys recommend for my tank. I have two overflows in the back so its not once straight piece of glass. I would like to control them with my Apex if possible.

Best idea is probably keep your MP40's on the sides and add a gyre in between the overflows on the back.

Actually if it's a 125 long it's only about a foot from front to back? In that case I would put the gyre on one end, MP40 on the other end and the other MP40 on the back.

 

[ravedood]

I dont want ot have any dead spots anymore. Right now my deadspots are under the MP40s and towards the back of the tank. Would a gyre in the center back hit these spots?

 

[Potatohead]

I dont want ot have any dead spots anymore. Right now my deadspots are under the MP40s and towards the back of the tank. Would a gyre in the center back hit these spots?

If the tank is only 12 - 14" front to back, I doubt it.

If you get the larger Gyre, put it on one side wall towards the top, then an MP on on the other side towards the bottom, that will gyre flow a lot. Then the one MP40 on the back on reefcrest or something to randomize it some more. At least that makes the most sense to me.

I guess if you put the gyre on the back and the MP's on the sides toward the bottom rear you can crash the gyre off the front glass and create a gyre kind of thing that way, but I imagine that would clear out any sand in the front of the tank.