Wanna see some rare fish

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hiepatitis

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I was gonna get some rare fish but I don't have the courage to spend that much on fish. Need some inspiration on successfully kept rare fish.
 
The most I spent (not so sure it is ultra rare) is for my Bluespotted Jawfish and it is doing well, a little over $100.
 
There was a Clarion Angel on the stock list recently, he is pretty much $2000 to $3000 dollars, depending on who you buy it from.

No way in heck I am going to drop two grand to watch something come home and possiably die.

There is also the cool wobblygong sharks that hit the $500 dollar range, same deal.

If it is a really nice fish I have seen a lot of success with such as the blue spot jaw I would drop a $100 bill for it.
To date the most I ave spent was $120 for a "mated pair" of Yasha hase gobies....they were murdered in cold blood by another fish in my tank..
 
there is a really nice bluespotted jawfish at Your Reef in Sacramento as of a few days ago..may be gone, but he was exactly $100.
 
blue spotted jawfishes arent really considered rare, well not in my book anyway. they use to be years ago but that was probably due to price and who/what store wanted to really pay for it and the market for it but other than that they are pretty easy to come by.
 
Yeah, that is what I thought too - the blue spotted is not that rare, but was more interesting than the usual jawfishes
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12071236#post12071236 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Twisted

If it is a really nice fish I have seen a lot of success with such as the blue spot jaw I would drop a $100 bill for it.
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Sorry to say BSJ reports are far from "a lot of success". Most perish failry quickly in aquaria, not to mention how many die in the COC. The fact is they are a very sensitive fish and do not fair well being shipped and can be a ***** to acclimate to ones system.
 
I don't know Gresham, how old are the BSJ reports. I know in the last year a store I fill in at has sold only 3 but of those three they have all survived.
I know of 6 other people I talk to occasionaly that have had thiers for over a year.

Ofcourse 9 total successful acclimations, doesn't mean a dang thing compared to the amount captured and sold at any given time, but those are the only reports I have seen.
Also to point out the fact, that you are more likely to hear a success story then you are to hear a story of failure.
So figure for every BSJ death you hear, there are probablly a hundred more.

I would love to see actual numbers though. Is there an actual department that keeps tabs on the success rates of certain fish?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12072396#post12072396 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by eben
there is a really nice bluespotted jawfish at Your Reef in Sacramento as of a few days ago..may be gone, but he was exactly $100.
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He is still there. I was watching him today. He is beautiful and seems to be very healthy.
 
There where three permits in Baja and up until a few years ago I worked for #2 permit holder. We brought in hundreds of them :) We tracked the trends at any given moment. We'd know DOA>DAA for our facility as well as DOA/DAA for the LFS we shipped or delivered to. In wholesale MO you must be very aware of such things otherwise you could end up broke very quickly.
 
That was a few years ago though Gresham, you know everything is improving, from methods of capture, to packaging, and delivery. Maybe not drastic improvments yet, but still.

There is also the improvments in hobbiest educations, and ability to care for them. More people claim to actually acclimate things, provide better substrate, food, etc...

I bet you the survival rate has increased a lot from a few years ago.

But Gresham has been in the industry in more ways, and longer then I could ever even guess, so I would be more willing to go with his judgement then mine.

But if the Blue spot jaw at Your Reef is the same one that was there during the frag swap, that means he has been there atleast a couple weeks, which is a good sign!
 
Hiep try one these, you would be the ONLY ONE on Rc or in the US to have one. Not one has been shipped to the US by the ONLy distributor of this fish.
Its a meridethiXconspics. Let me know if you want one.
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you work a ton of OT, you can afford this guy. You would be the biggest ANGELFISH PIMP on RC! :lol: LOL

I can send you a lrger image if you want. theres photo pirates out there.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12074266#post12074266 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Twisted
That was a few years ago though Gresham, you know everything is improving, from methods of capture, to packaging, and delivery. Maybe not drastic improvments yet, but still.

There is also the improvments in hobbiest educations, and ability to care for them. More people claim to actually acclimate things, provide better substrate, food, etc...

I bet you the survival rate has increased a lot from a few years ago.

But Gresham has been in the industry in more ways, and longer then I could ever even guess, so I would be more willing to go with his judgement then mine.

But if the Blue spot jaw at Your Reef is the same one that was there during the frag swap, that means he has been there atleast a couple weeks, which is a good sign!
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Method of capture? They all are caught hook and line, always have been, most likely always will. The holding and collection in baja hasn't improved and in some respects has gotten worse since the only ones being shipped aren't ocean held any longer. Certain protocols have been dropped over the last couple years. Some batches do pretty good, some do rotten. A recent batch was great, it wasn't held long at the station and stateside a good wholesaler with experience dealt with them. We had some very good batches as well. That doesn't change the fact of how many perish in the COC or in hobbyists hands. The only thing different then a few years ago is more people are on the net so we're exposed to more stories. Don't take my word for it though, ask people like Scott Micheal, he'll tell you the same.
 
That is very insightful Gresham I am glad you came to share that. The stories that we do see online, and in magazine articles will lead us to beleive that everyone is taking giant steps to make everything better.

I guess that goes to show the only fish truely better are the captive bred, which makes them all that much more worthwhile...too bad we can't figure out how to get all of them to breed in captivity, maybe someday.

Sorry to hijack the thread guy, i always like to hear what gresham has to say.
 
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