want to add pipefish

couch702

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Do you think it would be ok to add a maited pair of pipefish to my existing reef tank. Just wandering if they would be ok.
I have 3 clowns, a blue tang, and a comet fish (marine beta) I also have brittle starfish, but I dont think the starfish will bother a pipefish. Any help will be appriecieated.
 
If you're adding pipes to a reef, your best bet is to go with a flagfin species (genus Doryhamphus/Dunkerocamphus). This includes bluestripe, Janss', banded, multibanded, and yellow-banded to name the most common specimens.

I kept a pair of Janss' in a reef for several years, and they can handle the flow and temp. An established reef will also allow them to supplement their feedings with pods, altho a pair can decimate a teeming population in short order in a smaller tank.
 
If you're adding pipes to a reef, your best bet is to go with a flagfin species (genus Doryhamphus/Dunkerocamphus). This includes bluestripe, Janss', banded, multibanded, and yellow-banded to name the most common specimens.

I kept a pair of Janss' in a reef for several years, and they can handle the flow and temp. An established reef will also allow them to supplement their feedings with pods, altho a pair can decimate a teeming population in short order in a smaller tank.

What do you think about Corythoichthys in a reef setting? I have a few in my frag tank, but thats hardly a reef tank.
 
DF's can work OK in a reef as well, altho I don't really recommend them as a first pipe due to their small snouts and the associated feeding issues. I'd also stay clear of any strong-stinging corals they can slither thru.
 
Sorry I have answered any questions but with new years and getting back to work I have been bisy. I have been doing lots of reading on them though. I want to get the yellow banned pipefish. I think thats the name.
However with all my reading that I have been doing and my wife wanting seahorses also, I think we are going to turn out 30g fresh water tank into a dedicated pipefish, and seahorse tank.
So with that in mind, is there anything different that I should do for them other than my reef tank?
Thanks for helping this rookie:wavehand:
 
IME, yellow-banded pipes (D. pessuliferus) tend to be a bit more touchy than the other flagfins, probably because by the time they get to you, they're pretty thin, and their digestive systems are on the verge of shutting down. Like SH, pipefish lack a true stomach, and thus, cannot hold food for digestion (they hunt pretty much constantly). The other flagfins seem to come in with more weight on them. If you have a QT/Training tank with a teeming pod population, you might be able to get them over the hump so you can wean them onto other foods (frozen mysis, cyclopeeze, roe).

A SH/pipefish tank is a great idea, however, it's a crap shoot when it comes to mixing Syngnathid species...sometimes it works, sometimes one species dies, sometimes both die. This is especially true if you mix WC (there are no CB pipes in the US) and CB Syngnathids. The reason for this is that one species may carry a pathogen that they're immune to while the other species is not.

Personally, I'd go with either one species of SH or pipes until you get some experience, and then branch out from there after you learn their care and habits.

If you can, ALWAYS get TRUE CB stock from a reputable breeder (Seahorse Source is tops, and Beth [Peka] also has super nice SH) or hobbyist/breeder. They will come to you eating frozen mysis and conditioned to aquarium conditions.

Biggest mistakes peeps make with SH:

1. Keeping them too warm...even tropical sp. should be kept at < 74*F due to their propensity for contracting bacterial infections.

2. Keeping them with fast-moving or stinging tankmates.

3. They MUST eat at least once a day, twice is better. Plan on one cube of mysis per pair. Some peeps skip a day every so often, and that's OK to give them a fasting day, say once a week.

Other than that, live macro algae is your friend...it gives them hitching spots, hunting spots, and general comfort. It also looks nice and aids in water quality via nutrient export. We use live macro in pretty much all of our setups, SH or no.

HTH
 
I too am thinking of adding the banded pipwfish to my
120 gal mixed reef. I was thinking of adding two, however
would it be OK to add more say four?
Current fish population consists of
Flame angel
Blue damsel
2 red fire fish
1 purple firefish
 
Are you talking yellow-banded (D. pessuliferus) or banded (D. dactyliophorus)? The latter is much easier to keep right off the bat.

A group of bandeds would look nice. I kept a M-F pair of Janss' in a full-blown reef for several years and they did quite well. They even cleaned their tankmates on occasion.
 
Bandeds (D. dactyliophorus) have no yellow at all and broader bands. Yellow-bandeds (D. pessuliferus) have finer yellow and red stripes, and multibandeds (D. multifasciatus) have fine white and red stripes.

The caudal fins are also a huge clue as to the ID of flagfin species as well. Bandeds have red tails with horizontal upper and lower white stripes (margins) and a white dot in the center, while yellow-bandeds have red tails with an upper white stripe and yellow center spot.

If you can get a M-F-F trio of a given species, that would be perfect.

You do need to be sure not to include two males if you decide on bluestripes, as males will fight to the death, even in large setups.
 
Greg has given you awesome advice and is always so generous with his time.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you do not sound ready for pipefish. They are quite difficult. I have a roughly 50% success rate with a total of about 10 pipes. You must be quite dedicated to get them feeding and keep them fed. Your life will become about keeping pipefish alive. Are you sure that's the life you want? Yes, they're super cool looking, but not when they're dead. Trust me. Yellow banded are the hardest IME though I have one now that is eating prawn roe, cyclopeeze and small mysis with gusto! Yeah!

Here's a couple pics.

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you do not sound ready for pipefish. They are quite difficult.

This coming from a guy who keeps OSFF...:lol2:

hyper1,

It's getting the fish conditioned and weaned that's the hard part, but it can be timne consuming. Each "snick" at a food item is a small victory. However, once they're eating frozen, they're actually fairly easy to keep.
 
Here's my yellow multi eating hikari mysis which it has just started to do.

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