Water chemistry mystery. Ceiling high alkalinity

gemini aquarius(t)

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Sooooo.. I've been doing this aquarium thing for a while now... like 9 years and I have never seen anything like this before.

With my most recent tank, a 2.5 gallon I have had ridiculously high alkalinity. Like RIDICULOUSLY high. the first time I tested alkalinity it tested at 12 or 14... not positive. This time I tested it was at 16.8!!!!! WHAT THE HECK?! After each testing session I double checked with other tank water that checked out and confirmed that it was calibrated. The first time I had also checked salinity and it was 1.028 so I added fresh water and have been doing large-scale water changes, as is recommended in pico systems, and replacing carbon regularly. This time I tested calcium and it read BELOW 200!! Unreadable! I have had pretty bad water quality throughout the years, but nothing like this.

I dont dose anything, and water is changed on average once a week.

in between these tests, I thought the extra pump may be increasing the water temperature and altering elements or altering test results, so I turned it off.
I also removed the crushed coral, thinking it may be buffering the tank as water flowed over it. I also thought the detritus being trapped in the gravel, which was fairly significant, could just be deteriorating conditions in general.
Also between tests I turned the lights to a lower percentage in case the leds were somehow drawing something to go array in the chemistry.. (Yes, I know it sounds crazy, but I'm running out of ideas)
Other notable info is that the "control" water was tested between 8.1-8.5 the two times and that I have done a total of 500% water change since the first test.
 
back when I starte this tank .I was using red sea pro salt, My alk was like at 13 and calcium at like 600. WAAYYYY to high for me. I know use nsw and and back to normal params
 
What is your magnesium running at? Magnesium has a pretty good about to do with what your calcium and alkalinity are doing. I've been fighting high alkalinity as well, but staying on top of my magnesium and calcium has helped until I can switch to a lower alk salt
 
What's the alk and ca of the water you are using for water changes?
What's the source?

NSW and the baseline is 8.0 all and 450 calcium.

back when I starte this tank .I was using red sea pro salt, My alk was like at 13 and calcium at like 600. WAAYYYY to high for me. I know use nsw and and back to normal params

Thats what I thought too, but its NSW to start!
:crazy1:

What is your magnesium running at? Magnesium has a pretty good about to do with what your calcium and alkalinity are doing. I've been fighting high alkalinity as well, but staying on top of my magnesium and calcium has helped until I can switch to a lower alk salt

Magnesium was 1250 last time.

Just redid the tests after changing tanks, and starting over with new rocks. Alk started at 8.0 the day after setting it up, and now, about a week later, and after last nights water change, alkalinity is at 9.9 again and calcium is 462. Magnesium is 1215.

Salinity is a little high at 1.027 so that may have an effect?
Im reaching for straws here.
 
In the old tank there were two small pieces of Real Reef rock which is manmade, I left them out of this new tank, thinking they may be leaching alkalinity but now there are only pieces of live rock that have been in an established system for at least 8 months.

I did test again today after adding 1.5mL of calcium
and the results were
Ph 7.6 (low)
Alk 10.9 (a full point higher than the last test)
Calcium 504 (42 points higher than the last test which makes sense after dosing)

Now I'm really lost. What can cause alk to shoot up this quickly overnight and even after dosing calcium?!
 
Could be the kits but also of your magnesium is dropping it will boost your alk. If your running macroalgea and it's sucking down your magnesium and your not paying attention to it, your alk will jump up, even with calcium dosing.
 
Thats a good point Todd. Unfortunately, the tank is not running macro. It literally just has a light and a hob filter with a surface skimmer. No powerbeads, nothing else. its a very small tank, so there isn't much in it.

I was talking with a friend and he brought up frag plugs. Any chance they could be leaching alkalinity? And doing so at a high rate?
 
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