Wavebox Arrival?

[rvitko]

The wavebox was an invention of Norbert Tunze and Claude Hug. Claude is a retired electrical engineer who worked in an aluminum smelting plant in France and now does the same job I do except for France, Belgium and Luxemburg. Norbert Tunze was the founder of the company and this was one of the last projects he worked on before he passed away last year. Basically after we invented the Stream, Norbert started playing with what would happen if we put it behind a partition, then by chance he got a wave going with the proper timing, then Claude took to figuring out the math and put it in a Comline box and him and Norbert worked back and forth until we had something that worked really well and the basic circuit layout by last summer. Since we have refined it a little more. The complete set which is the box, the pump, the timing system costs $466.99 MSRP. The pump is a hybrid between a Stream 6100 and 6200 and has a special dampning system we use now on all Streams which helps control the noise, because these pumps are electronic the computers assist the start up to prevent the damage that would occur if a pump was turned off an on so fast.

Steve, we make products for small tanks, the Stream concept just does not apply to small aquaria. Our ordinary powerheads fill this niche, if you had 800 gph coming out of a firehouse it would be a trickle with no pressure, that same flow from a 1" outlet though is just right. Our powerheads still have low pressure flow but it is proportional to the decreased volume. The wavebox will work on any aquarium at least 3 ft long, it just is bulky but it will work.

 

[maoiwowie]

DT....my wavebox doesnt move my 350 at all; but it sits on a "tank" of a frame and on hardwood. Eventually i think you need to find a solution to the rocking. It will only get worse overtime; like that screw that always needs retightening. A heavy-duty stand should do the trick.

 

[mhurley]

Ditto....my 330 doesn't move at all...But the stand is way overengineered (six 6" posts for the base).

 

[DT's_Reef]

The problem is that I'm not certain it's entirely the stand's fault for moving (although it probably is).

The stand is on thick carpeting which sits on top of dense, thick, synthetic rubber padding (for acoustic insulation), which sits on top of a thin layer of mass loaded vinyl barrier (also acoustic insulation).

It's just a wild guess, but I wonder if that's contributing at all. I'd hate to buy a new stand, move the tank, etc., etc., and then find I have the same issue.

 

[maoiwowie]

My thinking is that you must assume the worst. I dont think the conventional stand had the Tunze wavebox in mind for its initial design; so the dynamics will be different and maximum weight thresholds should not be followed. Even if the rocking is caused by the padding or floor, the weight distribution is still in constant flux. I would er on the side of caution. Goodluck!

 

[DT's_Reef]

I just spoke with Tom at Lee Mar, who makes tanks, and he said that the type of repetitive motion my tank is experience is "nothing to be concerned about, especially at a 3/4 wave" and that it's capable of withstanding a lot more as he's used these tanks for surge systems with much larger wave movement.

BUT.... the thing I should be concerned about is the stand, particularly if the corners are flexing, as it could increase over time if the stand is not built properly.

He said although the stand is shuddering with the tank, it doesn't necessarily mean the joints are flexing, and he doubts it would be an issue with a stand made by Moore (both companies are located near each other).

I'm going to look into reinforcing the corners with metal brackets. I'll call Moore Cabinet Co. and see what they say.

 

[MSHUR]

guys,
i have 150 g rr oceanic with two overflows
whay is the best possition for the wavebox?
and i have two 6000 streams..

thankx,mike

 

[mrme]

how does this compare to the wave2k ?

 

[downset]

i am so getting one of these when i get my next tank
WOW is all i have to say

 

[alexwolf]

Question, my floor isnt very level, and its for my oceanic 175 bowfront. If you are looking at the tank, it slopes slightly from right to left, the left overflow getting more flow. Can I still use the box?

 

[rvitko]

I am not convinced the bowfront tanks are of the soundest construction, lots of threads on them leaking and I have seen quite a few failures unfortunately. I am nervous to recommend it on a bowfront, especially if it isn't on a level surface.

 

[alexwolf]

I have heard of the 72 leaking a lot, but never heard of a failure on the 175. Maybe I need to go to a 240 Can you help convince my wife lol..

 

[rvitko]

I have seen 2 175's fail when I owned my shop and they were slow leaks not catastrophic but it makes me nervous to add more stress to a bowfront tank.

Do you have a DeLorean? Very cool cars, one of my neighbors has one and I have always liked them, I saw one for sale in Hemmings a few years ago with 86 original miles preserved straight off the showroom floor in a climate controlled garage, it was $17,000.

 

[alexwolf]

I just sold it to a guy in El Paso. It was in fair shape and sold it for $11,000. There are always D's for sale on Ebay!!!! I must admit I am a little nervous about my tank, its about a year old, but bought both the tank and stand from Oceanic, so they have a 5 yr warranty!

 

[tacocat]

The wave2K doesn't work very well IMO. The box I saw actually flexes a little on the downstroke. Flow was pretty weak as well.

 

[rvitko]

Oceanic is very good about warranty coverage.

 

[peterlin98]

Roger -
I'm getting my wavebox on Monday from pre-order with Champion Light months ago. It was shipped two days ago.

My tank is 211 gallon, 68 inch long x 30 inch wide, 24 inch deep.

I remember reading that I will need another pump opposit from wavebox that turns on to sweep detritus to overflow box after wavebox suspend detritus. Right now I just have a Mag 18 as my return - eventually will hook up to sea swirl when I find time. Is there instruction to configure the wavebox to synch with another tunze stream?

Do you think I will need to add a tunze stream to work well with wavebox? Or will the return pump on sea swirl be good enough?

Thank you,
Peter

 

[rvitko]

On that size tank I think more than the return will be required. The multicontroller coordinates the Stream with the Wavebox, you have to use the 6000, 6100 or 6200 controllable Streams to do this. I would use a 6100.

 

[DT's_Reef]

Roger,

With the Wavebox on my 120g (with 1 corner overflow on the same side as the wavebox), should my Stream 6000 be oriented on the opposite side? I currently have it next to the Wavebox, with the flow running along the back side of the tank.

 

[rvitko]

Either way works but I would probably put it on the opposit side and run them on tide mode so the wavebox runs for 3-6 hrs and then the Stream takes over.