What about this idea for a sump?

charlesjordanjr

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I am trying to come up with a different idea for a sump and refugium. This is my idea:
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The idea is to have water enter the skimmer area. Then the water will travel through teeth cut into the lower half of the first baffle. The water will then travel over a 14 inch length of macro algae to the next baffle. That baffle will have 8 inch slits cut out in the middle to allow water to pass through without changing the water level in the Macro area. The water will repeat this process two more times. After passing through the third baffle with slits, the water will then pass through an additional 14 inches of macro algae before being forced to go over the final baffle. The final baffle has teeth cut into the top to keep the water at the proper level through the refugium filtration process. The water in the Macro section will only be as high as the teeth in the final baffle. The newly cleaned water will then travel through the return section into the return pump, and then back into the tank. All told, the water will travel through 56 inches of macro filtration. The water will be 12 inches high through the macro area, 12.5 inches tall in the skimmer section, and will be kept at 10 inches tall in the return section. The total water volume through the three sections will be 28 gallons.

What do you guys think?

Also, will this fit into my stand? I have 45 x 16 inch space in my stand. Unfortunately it is an oceanic stand so, they have wood in the way of the openings.

Anyone have experience with Oceanic 90g tank stands? I don't know how large of a sump I can put under it. I am going to try to cut a 48" x 14" x 14" acrylic tank that I already own to 42 x 14 x 14 and make the above sump/refuge. I guess when I cut the current tank that I want to make this out of, I can assemble it in the stand.
-Chuck
 
I was thinking it would force all the water over more macro algae. Instead of the water going over 20.5" of macro, it will be going over 56" of macro. Basically turning the sump refugium from just a 42" sump/refuge to a 75.75" sump/refuge.
-Chuck
 
i have never seen it before though, i mean i get the idea but i dont see it as being better than having 1 large area where all water flows over/ through... you will be slowing down the flow alot by doing that as well...
 
I was also thinking I would put different types of macro in each chamber. That way, the water will be forced to go over each type and possibly become even cleaner.
-Chuck
 
lol makes sence really but having only 1 chamber with cheato will do you just fine..

again jmo
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7362820#post7362820 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by charlesjordanjr
I was also thinking I would put different types of macro in each chamber. That way, the water will be forced to go over each type and possibly become even cleaner.
-Chuck

from personal experience...

i would only use chaeto macro...

the others, while more appealing to 'look' at...is just one huge PITA.

other macro's eg caulerpa's, grow into the substrate and rock...which makes it near impossible to remove completely, some may/will make it to your main display and if it gets a foot hold there...have fun removing it, is a touchy macro as it 'can' go sexual which means it releases its gametes which translates into possible tank destruction...

other than the factors listed above...caulerpa's is a fast growing (chaeto is faster) that will help with nutrient export...
 
well, I have been considering not having macro in the first chamber. I have been propagating both types of my xenia like crazy. I was considering putting xenia in the first chamber, chaeto in the second chamber, Red Gracillaria in the third chamber, and mangroves in the fourth chamber. I figure with that combo, my water should be filtered pretty well, and I could feed my tangs some Red Gracillaria now and again.
-Chuck
 
I like the innovative idea. I think your choices of plant filtration are pretty good, though I'm not sure how well the mangrove pulls out nutrients and if it will thrive under most refugium lights (usually compact flo's). I would also try to put the chaeto in a spot that gets it rolling the most from the current. I say go for it, I don't see why not!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7363710#post7363710 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by hollywood300m
Just out of curiosity, why would you put Xenia in the first chamber of your sump?

Based on a study by Ron Shimek. "on a per weight basis Xenia appears to be the best export mechanism" That is compared with caulerpa. I am not sure how it would compare with chaeto.
-Chuck
 
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